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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I've literally never heard of Keen until this article.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The traditional way to learn about Google services is from the shutdown announcement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The only Keen I know of (and acknowledge) is the Commander:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

No surprise. Nobody talks about new Google projects any more, since the assumption is they'll be gone in a year.

Edit: Not even hyperbole. This very article states Keen was launched in 2020 and stopped receiving updates in 2021. They shelved it in literally a year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

My understanding is that Google "rates" its leaders by the number and types of projects they develop. Ergo there are a lot of people working on disparate items that often overlap, because it's "their" project. Once the project completes, they get their credit, stop caring, and move on to the next. It is said this is why google creates then kills so much. It's by design, essentially. The products they keep are the ones that make the most ad revenue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At least they didnt intigrate it with Gmail or some other insane bloat they like to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I'd have appreciated them integrating Google reader with Gmail instead of killing it off

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yup. Even if Google came out with a really cool service tomorrow that I found far better than alternatives, I still wouldn't use it, because unless I'm very lucky, it'll be axed at some point. And Google has only themselves to blame.

I'll happily shout from the rooftops about my dislike of Apple (their philosophy, faux environmentalism, price-gouging, anti-competitive, anti-repair BS, I could go on for a while), but when was the last time they did this? The fucking Newton? Sure the iPod was axed, but I think it's fairer to say the market axed MP3 players, rather than Apple axed the iPod.

If Apple announces something, you can be almost certain it'll still be around in a decade.

Look at Apple Maps. It was an absolute joke when it came out and people mocked and memed it relentlessly.

If Google were in that position, they'd have just scrapped it and moved on to their next project that'd probably be scrapped too.

Fuck Google's dumb businesses practices, and fuck them for making me say something to Apple's credit. Makes me feel dirty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The iPod was axed after what, 15 years?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Me neither but I'm sure the Google program manager who proposed it got promoted for that long ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I have seen dead social media or social media approaching its dead, but I ve never seen this. Keen looks like it had zero activity for a long, long time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Throwing together a service, telling no one, then promptly cancelling it (often because no one used it) is truly the Googlest thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

why do they even do that when it's just gonna waste their resources?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Literally never heard of it, which is probably the reason and kinda makes it a good call?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

In this case, probably. I don’t think the world was asking for a Pinterest clone.

But the problem is, Google does this with everything.

Stadia had an incredibly successful moment with the Cyberpunk launch. Yet Google failed to hype it up, and then announced about two months later that they were laying off a bunch of devs.

At the same time, they restructured the monetization and improved the client, making it a really compelling service. And all the news was “Stadia is dead”. And then it was.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's just self-fulfilling prophecy at this point. No one trust Google to keep anything around for more than a couple years so they don't use it. Then it gets scrapped as a failure and everyone is proven correct.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

yep. I don't go near Google products anymore because I know I'm gonna have to migrate a short while later. I don't understand how they're not seeing this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I know Google has a terrible reputation for killing their projects but this one is just an experiment from Area 120 so it's not surprising or terrible that they're killing it or weren't advertising it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why stop there? Shut it all down. Pull the plug.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I'm still waiting for Android to be deprecated