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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4134651

American bourgeois democracy

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes they're both shit, but one IS much worse than the other. Don't let this kind of shit tier meme allow fascism to slide in (yes trump is a textbook fascist)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Biden sidestepped congress to fund and provide weapons for genocide and the dnc went to court to tell their voters to eat shit, pretty fascist if you ask me even if they wave a pride flag as they fascist.

Pretty crazy how everyone is cool with fascism as long as they leave the gays alone (because, famously, fascists who pit group A against group B have NEVER gone after group A once Group B was subjugated)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's not fascism. Pretty fucked up, sure, but not fascism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Going to court to have it ruled that you're a private institution that's not bound by any obligation to your voters, supporters, etc sounds pretty "centralized autocracy" to me.

But whatever getting semantic won't stop them from gunning for marginalized populations in a few years in order to ""court centrists."" Look forward to seeing how yall justify it then!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Typical "both sides" bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've decided to abstain from voting, this time.

Granted, it may be because I'm nowhere near the U.S.

If you are, though, do pick your poison. You have this system, make use of it. And none of that "but it won't change anything" nonsense!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Electoralism is a bullshit. Only a revolution will change things

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Sure the country needs to be turned off and on again, but clearly the median isn't interested in that. So what remains? The system.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Revolutions, on average, make things worse. Seriously, the outcome of the median revolution is pretty terrible. Things need to be incredibly bad before it's an improvement in expected value to do a revolution, instead of trying to improve the existing system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you genuinely believe you can vote Socialism into place in the first world?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Seems to be working for the Nordic countries. I genuinely think that if you try a revolution in America, what you get will not be socialism. If you're lucky, you will fail and get violent government rerribution. If you aren't lucky, you'll get full on authoritarianism, with mass bloody purges of undesirables of all shades. The rate of revolutions leading to good outcomes sucks. Mostly you get various flavors of dictatorships. Often with state sponsored mass murder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nordic countries are not Socialist, they are Capitalist with ever-eroding safety nets that still depend on Imperialism to subsidize their safety nets. Their disparity is rising as Capitalism decays.

Revolution, ie siezing control of the state, does not need to be violent.

You should read Reform or Revolition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

How would you do so nonviolently? Would you get your people into office? That seems like the nonviolent way to seize control of the state, but if there is another, I'm interested to hear it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Easy choice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think even one life of a trans person or Palestinian is important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You'd still be voting for the genocide of 99%. And voting for Hindenburg did not stop Hitler.

Of course, you do have the option of voting for someone other than the genocidal candidates, and organizing and taking direct action to put pressure on this genocidal imperialist state.