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Poor Israel can barely afford to murder children anymore.
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Why does Israel need aid? To help them invade someone more?
The realpolitik answer is that they’re the only country in the region with highly functioning western-style market economy. That is valuable to other functioning western style market economies. Its a system trying to help itself propagate.
The way your 'y's alling on this post made my day! (mildly)
That doesn't make any sense, considering support for Israel was the main cause behind the 9/11 attacks.
Seems like support for Israel is good for one nation: Israel.
The cause of 9/11 is US influence in the land of Mecca.
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I guess shells are in high demand, currently. I don't expect much but I hope the Senate votes it down or removes the majority of the Israel aid package. Currently it's about 12 Billion USD worth of various support in addition to 14 Billion "Unconditional Military Support" while dealing with Iran.
If I had to rationalize it, I expect they simply want to give the bare minimum to avoid requiring sending soldiers to invade Iran directly. In my opinion, we'd be justified to "invade" Israel and oust the Netanyahu administration, solving the entire problem a lot cheaper.
If I had to rationalize it, I expect they simply want to give the bare minimum to avoid requiring sending soldiers to invade Iran directly.
Nah, the bare minimum to avoid sending soldiers to Iran is whatever it costs to send Israel a message saying "Lol, get fucked."
Israel has made their bed, let them lie in it now. I really don't see the US being able to sell an invasion of Iran at this point.
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Fuck russia, fuck israel.
And fuck the house.
And my axe!
No! Wait! (Lengthy pause)
Use the axe to fuck the house, Israel AND the Orcs! Much better plan.
"Fuck the House" would be a good name for a casino heist movie if movies could have 'fuck' in the title.
American Fiction dragged a little at times, but the decision to name his book “Fuck” was brilliant.
Movies can have a little bit of fuck in the title, as a treat.
Mum: We have fuck at home
Home: Heck
We really need laws against these laws where they just bundle a bunch of good things with a bunch of fucking terrible things, just to get it passed.
Tiktok and Ukraine Aid are entirely different issues, and they really shouldn't be in the same fucking bill.
Further, "banning" Tiktok is going to just about as well as those "Parental Advisory: Explicit Lyrics" did in the fucking 90's. A lot of time, effort, and wasted money for barely any real-world impact.
Tiktok is already becoming unpopular, because just like with Facebook, everyone's parents want to stay cool and hip and know what the youth are up to. Now its filled with millennials like myself who are pushing out Gen Z because they don't want us shitting up their spaces. Just like we didn't want our parents/adults invading our spaces and why millennials bailed on Facebook when it became Boomer central.
While I agree with you in general, this is not what happened in this case.
The House voted on the four bills in succession, one day after a rare and extraordinary bipartisan coalition teed up the votes, with more Democrats (165) than Republicans (151) voting for the “rule” to proceed to the measures.
There was roughly speaking the Ukraine bill, the Israel bill, the Taiwan and other aid bill, and the tik tok bill. All separately passed. Ukraine funding was not on the same bill passed as the TikTok thing today.
Combining issues in bills isn't always bad and can be a vehicle toward compromise too. Separating things can even be a way of killing a bill. There are pros and cons, really depends on the situation.
I agree on keeping bills separate, but you seem to be confused. Tiktok wasn't in the same bill, the help for Ukraine, Taiwan and Israel was bundled together.
The reason for it was that the current speaker actually wanted help for Israel and Taiwan but was holding the bill because of Ukraine, which his orange friend doesn't support.
This is why it was held. Why the speaker had a sudden change of heart?
It was because two Republicans threatened to resign, leaving Democrats in majority and getting speakership (I wish that outcome would actually happened).
So he brought those bills to vote, but he split the bills. Because of it, now they have to go back to Senate, adding another unnecessary delay.
This is why it was held. Why the speaker had a sudden change of heart?
nah, it was:
Mr. Johnson attributed his turnabout in part to the intelligence briefings he received, a striking assertion from a leader of a party that has embraced former President Donald J. Trump’s deep mistrust of the intelligence community. Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/us/politics/mike-johnson-turnaround.html
In some ways, a bit scary that what they told him really convinced him so readily. On the other hand I'm glad he was able to turn down local US politics (something I don't feel Republicans have been doing recently) and focus on external politics.
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You've got many good points, and I'm not defending the Tiktok ban (or whatever technical thing it is), but counterpoint your last one:
Look what Facebook did to the boomers. Do we want to go through that again but with Millennials and Tiktok? Our generation has more experience with social media, granted. Still, that's part joke and part something I think about as an older, non-Tiktok millennial.
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While I do agree on including “unrelated” things together, these all sound like they are separate bills in this case.
Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan are all separate bills for “foreign aid”. The article isn’t 100% clear, but TikTok sounds like there is some separation. The reason I think they’re separate is that the article mentioned that they voted on each item, meaning that there’s at least 3-4 different votes.
It’s all the game of politics. “Shake my hand and I’ll shake yours” stuff, and Johnson, regardless of his overall beliefs, seems like he’s well-versed in the game.
If banning TikTok, as inane as that is, ensures we continue to aid Ukraine, then fine, ban it. eye roll
Israel, however, is the matter of getting enough of Rs to vote Yea to outweigh the Maggots. I don’t like it, but the feds spend billions of dollars on tons of stuff I dislike. If allowing a continued genocide in one country means that the same won’t happen in two others…(sigh)
Israel, however, is the matter of getting enough of Rs to vote Yea to outweigh the Maggots. I don’t like it, but the feds spend billions of dollars on tons of stuff I dislike. If allowing a continued genocide in one country means that the same won’t happen in two others…(sigh)
And it's not as if a lack of funding would stop them anyway. It's largely symbolic and to ensure Israel keeps buying American.
and another that forces Tiktok’s parent company to sell it.
Capitalists never play fair, lol.
Can't wait to see some stupid western company take the place of tiktok then all the retards complaining about tiktok suddenly shutting up.
They don't realize there's a trade war going on and they're just useful idiots in it.
There are several right-wing groups eager to buy it, which is 100% why they're going after it.
Reddit, Twitter, TikTok, and Facebook. They're going to control all of it soon.
Din they'll be requiring expensive identity verification for online accounts to make the fediverse financially unsustainable.
Nah. I don't think Bytedance sells. The big enchilada is the source code and that's not getting sold because there's 6 Billion more people they can get on the app.
"Can't" afford universal healthcare, and "can't" afford student debt relief, but we sure can magic up money for killing!
The US government spends more per capita in healthcare than any country with universal healthcare and then a big chunk of the population also pays for private health insurance over that.
It's not about not being able to afford it, it would even be cheaper.
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That guy still wasn't fired?
You mean with actual fire, right?
Should be 86.8 bil to Ukraine and 0 to the terrorist organisation of Isreal
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