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Fifth Circuit Says Law Enforcement Doesn’t Need Warrants To Search Phones At The Border (www.techdirt.com)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1899058

Archived version: https://archive.ph/OfNYb
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230825183014/https://www.techdirt.com/2023/08/25/fifth-circuit-says-law-enforcement-doesnt-need-warrants-to-search-phones-at-the-border/

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Talk about burying the lede, the plantiff in this case was a fucking immigration lawyer and used to work for the DHS who got his attorney client privilege denied and got forensically searched (meaning they copied his data). This is insane gestapo shit. They knew who he was. https://www.themalikfirm.com/about/adam-a-malik2/

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I literally have nothing to hide, but conveniently have just reset my phone whenever I’m flying into the US.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Unfortunately, "the border", as defined in US customs law, extends 100 miles inland from the coast. That covers the entire urbanized eastern and western seaboards, or 2/3 of the US population.

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy shit. If I'm mathing correctly, that's like 12% of the entire land mass of the contiguous US.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

And also where most of the people live.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's also where a majority of the population lives.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've also been trying to claim that international airports are "external boundaries", and that their power extends 100 out from there. So even "safe" places like, say, Denver or Indianapolis or St. Louis wouldn't be safe if they have their way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Talk about overreach.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And into most of Canada :)

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My company will give you a blank laptop if you have confidential information on it when traveling to the US. The policy is always to comply and hand over everything if asked so they want to minimize any risks of information falling into the wrong hands.

That policy also applies for traveling to China. So it’s pretty telling that my company thinks the US and Chinese governments are both risks to its intellectual property.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Well, they are...

At least China doesn't try to hide it I guess

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can setup Syncthing to be able to quickly redownload everything after you reset your phone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Well, but I specifically don’t want to quickly resync anything while I’m in the US. I’ll have what I need of documents on a Proton Drive or similar.

I’ll turn back on iCloud sync later.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh this is nice. Thanks for the link!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well, that’s fucking terrifying. Because the “border” legally extends ~~80~~ 100 miles in from the actual border due to some other stupid ruling.

Edit: miles

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Even worse, 65.3 percent of Americans live within this zone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's all within 100 miles of any airport that lands international flights and any coastal boundaries, regardless of distance from another country's border.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Source on the airports part? I don't think that's true. The ACLU doesn't mention it: https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things like this make me wish the traditionally anti government party wasn't a bunch of loonies, because they'd be the ones pushing this to public conscious in a way that might move the needle.

I don't doubt the intentions of (some) progressive members of government, but they're outgunned and have a long list of priorities. Getting legislation to reverse this isn't coming from corporatists, the infinite retention is going to seem like a feature to business.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

there is no anti government party. they're both only anti the one in power.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Of course they fucking do, it's the 5th circuit. It's a shitshow down there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Lol where is this image from Screenshot_2023-08-26-03-05-41-979_eu.toldi.infinityforlemmy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not world news? But people in the US: These things can be fought back. Vote in every election local to national. Put pressure on your representatives. Donate to reps who do right by your values. Apathy is how they win. Sign up for EFF's e-mail alerts https://act.eff.org/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would argue that this is worldnews in that (if I understand it correctly) this impacts foreign travelers too, even those simply making connecting flights.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Woow

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

America is the evil empire and must be destroyed