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Hey everyone,

I am exploring switching over to Linux but I would like to know why people switch. I have Windows 11 rn.

I dont do much code but will be doing some for school. I work remote and go to school remote. My career is not TOO technical.

What benefits caused you to switch over and what surprised you when you made the switch?

Thank you all in advanced.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Linux doesn't try to sell my elderly mother a subscription to onedrive

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

These days, Windows constantly gets in your way with ads, forced updates, crappy apps that install themselves, useless features like Cortana, forcing you to make a Microsoft account, etc. Linux or the BSDs, however, usually give you a bullshit-free and distraction-free experience. Plus, no spyware, completely free, endlessly customizable, and low resource usage (if you use a lightweight setup, but even "bloated" distros like Ubuntu and Mint are often light compared to Windows).

And what surprised me? I guess the only thing that surprised me is how easy the experience is, especially for things like gaming, which Linux has historically had a bad reputation for. Also, how nice it can be to use the terminal, not that you have to, especially as a novice user.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I just like to hang out with you guys : )

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t have ads within my OS or start menus, I can do whatever I want with it, I can customize it with different desktop environments, if I mess anything up and need to clean install I don’t need to worry about license keys.

Also chicks dig penguins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There was no special reason for switching 25 years ago. A friend of mine used Debian and I tried it out. Not being a gamer must have helped because if you like playing, chances to encounter a game that only runs on Windows are quite high.

Now the reason why I never changed back. Once the system runs, which may take some rime depending on how customized you want it, it always runs the same way. I never had a slowing down due to updates. Another reason may be not having to think about viruses or malware. Never had it and most likely never will. Antivirus? They may exist for Linux but I have never used them.

In a few words. It just works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Embarrassingly enough, wanted to install Ubuntu on an external drive. It was early, still in bed, accidentally erased the notebook's main drive. Thought I might as well give it a shot. That night, tried to go back to windows. Turns out that creating a bootable Windows bootable USB is nearly impossible from MacOS and Linux nowadays.. gave up after a few hours.

So, giving Linux a forced try. I'll probably make a Windows installation USB as soon as I can get someone to lend me their Windows computer. If it takes long enough, I may not though 😞

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There were a few reasons I wanted to switch, but nothing pushed me much, until a lot of things culminated at once.

I'd been using Linux on servers for a long time, and a Linux desktop in an old job, and I much prefer the usability of it over Windows (I really like the command line options on Linux over CMD or Powershell, and kept having issues with Git Bash, whereas stuff would just work on Linux), as well as the customisablity, and it is more friendly for developing (at least in my opinion, web development for me specifically) so I'd been contemplating it and occasionally trying out distros in VMs. Then I found out my PC isn't compatible with Windows 11, and it had me thinking it was dumb that I couldn't upgrade because my PC meets all the specifications but there's some specific thing Microsoft didn't like and didn't think was "secure enough" or whatever. It got me thinking that it's dumb that a company can decide what I'm allowed to install on my PC. Even if my PC was vastly underpowered for the OS, it should be up to me to decide what I can and can't install on my computer that I built with my money.

I looked into installing Windows 11 and bypassing the check, and it seemed like too much hassle, so I was going to stay on Windows 10, but at some point after, a Windows update completely broke my installation - which wasn't the first time - and after hours of trying to fix it, it pushed me over the edge. I decided to completely scrap Windows at that point, because I was just fed up and preferred Linux anyway, and justified it further because of the fact Windows is essentially spyware on top of that. I nuked my OS drive and installed the distro I liked the most at that point (KDE neon) over it and never looked back.

I also have Valve to thank for that impulse too, because at the time I'd been looking at their work on Proton because I wanted to know how well gaming worked on Linux, and from what I saw, pretty much my entire library would work mostly without issues thanks to the info on ProtonDB. If I hadn't seen this info, I might have hesitated to switch, but knowing most - if not all - of my games would work (even if I had to do a bit of tweaking) made the decision very easy.

The main thing that surprised me is just how polished it feels. At least with KDE as my desktop environment, it feels like everything has a purpose and they belong together. So many things in Windows felt tacked on and like it was an afterthought, with vastly different designs. The biggest thing I love is being able to fully (and I mean fully) customise the taskbar, window decorations, colours, animations, everything. I love being able to make things my own, and I couldn't do that on Windows. Windows was more "Microsoft with a bit of my touches" whereas using KDE neon it feels like my computer.

Also, software repositories are fantastic. Instead of having to download an exe for each thing you install and each having their own way of updating, with package managers I can just search in a central place, install it, and the package manager itself will keep it updated for me. It's just so much more user friendly. Although one thing that threw me off with package managers is seeing a notification that I had updates and it was like "you have 200 updates" and it shocked me, but obviously each piece of software has their own individual update, including system packages, instead of Windows update where you get a single package with a bunch of updates in it that you can't customise, and possibly a few driver updates.

One obstacle I hit however was graphics drivers. I have an nvidia GPU and nvidia really doesn't want to play nice with Linux for some reason, but to get a decent gaming performance you need their proprietary drivers. I had quite a few issues trying to get them properly installed, so unless you have an AMD GPU or are fine spending a bit of time possibly troubleshooting, take this as a warning (or if you don't care about gaming, because the open drivers would probably be fine for just a basic PC)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Windows 95 was dreadful.

Yes I am old and my knees do hurt, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was writing just writing some code one day. I then realised something, I needed to press " key twice. I thought my keyboard had died, but the behaviour was consistent so that's unlikely. Then I realised what happened. Windows had installed and set English international as the default layout, and I was unable to switch it out in settings. Even if I manually switch to English us, it would eventually go back. And editing the registry to remove it just made all windows system apps shit themselves.

Now at the same time, I had a laptop. It had an update pending for a few weeks, but the update kept failing and hence I had not allowed it to update this time. But as I open up my laptop to code on there with the right keyboard layout, I see the update screen. THE LAPTOP WAS NEVER TURNED OFF, and it was plugged in. I waited and waited till it finally failed yet again.

Also shortly after one more of these attempts was made my windows which wiped my encryption keys and made my system unbootable or recoverable.

I had used Linux on a Chromebook before with custom firmware, all my dev work happend in wsl, and I had did a lot of projects on the raspberry pi, so for me the logical step was to completely wipe my SSD and install Linux mint. That happened about 4 years ago and I have not ever thought of leaving Linux. I did switch to arch though, so I use arch btw.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched back in 2005 (I think), because Windows XP didn't have the drivers for being installed on an S-ATA drive and SUSE could be installed without any hassle. I feel very old.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My dad always tells me about how it drove him insane for days that Windows XP couldn't detect the HDD, but it showed up totally fine in BIOS. He ended up taking it to a computer shop, and the bastards didn't even tell him about the F6 floppy (instead they charged him double what was quoted because their techs had to 'learn how to do it').

It was only because they somehow even screwed that up, what should have been a simple setup of Windows XP, and he had to reinstall, that he finally learned from the internet that he needed the F6 floppy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ha! I ran a little computer shop for 6 years starting in 2008 and never knew about the f6 floppy until today

Well TIL

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was nicknamed the F6 floppy because Windows XP setup would say "Press F6 to load a SCSI driver" and you would hit that, select the driver from your floppy, and continue setup.

I've even seen vendor's websites call it F6 Driver because the unofficial name was so ubiquitous

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair I remember that prompt, and if I was playing around with some fancy new HDD configuration and the customer bought in a job as "install windows because I can't even" the ball would have dropped on the first go and I would have worked it out pretty fast I reckon. No way I would have jacked up the price on your dad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I work at a (much more legitimate) computer shop and we wouldn't have up charged on that either. What we quote is what we quote, even if it blows out to 10 hours instead of 1, that's on us not on the customer.

That computer shop my Dad went to, he learned afterwards from study mates that the shop had done that to multiple people for various different jobs, and they're constantly changing names but I'm pretty sure it's the same business running even today.