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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

cats absolutely meow to other cats

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

From wikipedia

Adult cats rarely meow to each other. Thus, an adult cat meowing to human beings is generally considered a post-domestication extension of meowing by kittens: a call for attention.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Cats are not domesticated though or not fully domesticated. They are tame.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

this is a stupid take especially considering that "tame" usually literally just means domesticated

  1. Not or no longer wild; domesticated

adjective: 1. (of an animal) not dangerous or frightened of people; domesticated.

verb: domesticate (an animal).

reduced from a state of native wildness especially so as to be tractable and useful to humans : DOMESTICATED

in fact the first definition for "tame" in every dictionary i've looked up just has the word "domesticated" as the meaning for tame. "domesticate" and "tame" are also indirectly cognates, they both ultimately derive from PIE *dem(h₂), just "domesticate" is Latinate and "tame" is Germanic, but that's more of a fun fact than a relevant indicator of meaning.

we selectively bred cats to fit our wants/needs, they live in our house and pester us to support their lifestyle, what about that isn't domestication

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

My cats meow at each other sometimes, especially when surprised or trying to pick a fight, but it's very different than how they meow at me. And they seem to favor non verbal cues with each other as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Domesticated cats meow much more than wild ones do, since they’ve learned to do it for us. Cat mothers chirp to their kittens. So while yes, they do, the tweet is right; cats meow to get our attention, and they meow at about the same frequency as babies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The incorrect part about the tweet is that they do it to mimic human infants. They do not. They learned that humans love a little meow meow and it gets them attention, it's confidential that it's similar to babies

My friend had a cat whose meow sounded like an elderly pack-a-day smoker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I once read that cats fully understand that we want their attention when we call them. They just choose to ignore it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can independently confirm. My cats definitely know their names, and their ears will perk up when called. But most of the time they can't be bothered to turn their heads towards the sound, there's no chance they'll get up to engage unless they hear a treat bag crinkle with it lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Cats, like demons, have many names only one of which is their true name to which they obbey without question.

Curiously cat's true names usually sound a lot like a treat bag cringle or the sound of a cat food can being opened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Here's the study on that, it was specifically the name calling that was studied. Where they concluded that the cats brain reacted to their name, but actively decided to ignore it. Always stuck with me as well!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I keep seeing this "factoid" and I'm pretty sure it's just bullshit.

Cats meow to each other all the time. They can meow in frequencies humans can't hear but they didn't start meowing just to "manipulate" humans.

Cats did however develop a specific type of meow that does in fact mimic the frequencies of a baby crying but it's not the cats normal meow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is the first time I've seen the word factoid used for its actual original definition... but why you put it in quotes?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe he wasnt 100% sure about the definition of "factoid" so he just kinda factoided the word "factoid" into existence :D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That's actually exactly what happened.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought a factoid was simply the term for those quick fun facts.

Like how magenta doesn't actually exist and it's a glitch in your brain because it can't process a lack of green so it creates magenta.

So yeah I thought factoids were true but now I know better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That's the fun part! Factoid kind of became a factoid (I know there's an actual etymological term for this but I can't remember it) I believe its original definition was an assumption thats circulated enough its assumed as fact. ie many "wives tales" But now the definition you gave has been assumed so much it has become fact! See? Fun!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Combining sound and food stimuli is classic pavlov conditioning. Cats learn very quickly if they make any sound that a human will react in a way, ie scratching a door for territory or meowing for food.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Cats meow to each other all the time. This is some grade A misinformation right here.