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For some reason began going down a rabbit hole thinking about this. Let's say you are blind, and reliant on a guide dog, but end up in prison for a non-violent crime like possession of illegal drugs. Are you allowed to keep the dog? No, right? But if you are entirely reliant on the guide dog to perform daily tasks, how do you manage in prison? What about people who are seriously disabled in other respects, like wheelchair users or those missing limbs, or those with serious mental disabilities? I'm asking for answers both from countries that actually treat prisoners like humans and the US

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago (2 children)

(US)For people who have conditions requiring regular medication (diabetes, organ transplant recipients, etc)... i have generally heard that prescriptions are confiscated, and they are frequently dead by the time the drugs are approved.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago

More or less, yep. Privatizing the legal slavery of targeted populations has worked wonders for the Justice™ system here in the US. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

So many stories of people needing their medicine, and going into spams, but the cops just say it is all fake and purposely ignore the person.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago

A lot of the time, they just suffer without the aid they need.

I varies a lot though, depending on where and what your disability is.

Wheelchairs do exist in prisons. Wheelchair users often use the ground floor cells.

People with guide dogs generally don't need them in the restricted environment of a prison because they can simply memorize the layout like they would their home. Guide dogs are for more dynamic situations usually.

Serious mental disabilities often end up in mental institutions instead of prisons, they're often found not criminally responsible for their actions.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

Most states have medical prisons to detain those with special needs.

Here is an example of one.

https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/facility-locator/cmf/

Sometimes they’ll be paroled if they are Low risk. That way the tax payer isn’t financially responsible.

Ironically medical care is a right to prisoners but it’s not for everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Americans with disabilities aren't cared for even outside of a correctional setting. I'm sure it is even worse inside of one. I know I've read of multiple instances of people dying or suffering severe consequences because they are not in control of their medication while in custody and it is withheld from them. And that's just medication; you don't need to be disabled to need a medication.

Edit: The medication cases tend to come up in jails rather than prisons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What is the difference between a jail and a prison? As a non-native speaker I've learned that they are synonyms.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My understanding is that jail is where you go when you're awaiting trial for something or being held pending charges. Prison is where you go as punishment when you've been convicted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

So jail is for custody. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

A jail is where you are held before and during your trial, prison is where you are sentenced to serve out longer terms.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Ummm, from what ive seen, the general vibe is, you know how your boss would like to chain you to a desk in an office and ignore all your human wants and just make you a mindless drone that does their bidding, and as long as you are chained at that desk, you know that every couple days/weeks/months they will suddenly cater to your needs for a 45min to 4hr task, and based on how they like your performance, you stay chained to that desk or you get your needs catered to just enough to make you want to do WHATEVER you just did again?

That's what jail/prison is.

Human rights removed. Behavioral programming at maximum.

If I lost my leg right now, I would be destitute.

2 years in a prison and I'd probably be one-leg-hopping all over the place. Or buried out back. And we are learning that American police stations and prisons have a problem with literal shallow graveyards behind their buildings.

One of the major explainers about why badges hate 1st Amendment Auditors.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Huge difference: do you have that condition before you go to prison, or does it start afterwards?

If you have it before (plus all the papers certifying it), then they are going to care properly. Doctors & judges can even decide that a person is unable to go to prison (this happens often when people are very old).

If you get it later, then the procedures take awfully long, and in the meantime you will probably not get all the care that you need. Plus some really bad treatment by other inmates.

Talking about Germany.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago

Fed to bears.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Soylent Green.