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A new South Dakota policy to stop the use of gender pronouns by public university faculty and staff in official correspondence is also keeping Native American employees from listing their tribal affiliations in a state with a long and violent history of conflict with tribes.

Two University of South Dakota faculty members, Megan Red Shirt-Shaw and her husband, John Little, have long included their gender pronouns and tribal affiliations in their work email signature blocks. But both received written warnings from the university in March that doing so violated a policy adopted in December by the South Dakota Board of Regents.

“I was told that I had 5 days to remove my tribal affiliation and pronouns,” Little said in an email to The Associated Press. “I believe the exact wording was that I had ‘5 days to correct the behavior.’ If my tribal affiliation and pronouns were not removed after the 5 days, then administrators would meet and make a decision whether I would be suspended (with or without pay) and/or immediately terminated.”

The policy is billed by the board as a simple branding and communications policy. It came only months after Republican Gov. Kristi Noem sent a letter to the regents that railed against “liberal ideologies” on college campuses and called for the board to ban drag shows on campus and “remove all references to preferred pronouns in school materials,” among other things.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The party of small government is now regulating your email signatures.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Noem says shut up and work or she’ll shoot your dog

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

If you keep your dog on a reserve she can’t get to it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

🐕🔫👩‍👧

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Hey we have some pretty serious and urgent problems that need sorting out, shall we get to work?"

"Nah, let's fuck around with pronouns in emails."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

"We're here to create problems, not solve them!"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That sounds like a clear first amendment violation to me. It’s not like a political affiliation either, gender and ethnic background are core to identity

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

On the one hand, I see what you're saying. It sounds much like something my savior Jesus would say.

On the other hand, something something fuck them queers and Injuns.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The first amendment doesnt apply to governmental communications.

Its the reason that things are able to be censored in public schools.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The reason things can be censored in schools is because of the "bong hits 4 Jesus" case that went to the Supreme Court who said the school taking it down didn't violate their freedom of speeech because "it could reasonably seen as promoting drug use at a school event".

Fucking stupid case because if I recall it was at a parade for the Olympic torch coming through their town (doesn't sound like a school event to me) and was not on school property.

Just a kid who happened to go to school being harassed, outside of school, by a principal at a public parade in their town, for holding a silly sign.

So what is there a caveat to 1A that says, "Congress can make no law [...] unless that speech or expression may reasonably be seen as promoting drug use"?

What a bullshit country run by octogenarian Christians who just won't leave people the fuck alone.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're not even pretending it's "just" about pronouns anymore. Now it's just overt racism. Not surprised they went for the indigenous first.

Incidentally, there are over 70,000 indigenous Americans living in South Dakota. Considering the state has less than a million people, that's not insignificant, so this is going to fuck over more than one or two people.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Well that sounds legal as fuck (no it doesn't)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

I'm failing and firing everyone on campus who doesn't immediately start reporting EVERY use of EVERY pronoun in EVERY email.

Swamp those mother fuckers .

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Whoever told you that is your enemy

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Government small enough to fit in your mailbox

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So what do people call each other now? Fuckwit/fuckedwit?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those are gender pronouns with extra steps. \s

The tittle butchers the fact. They are not forbidden the use of pronouns, but to list their preferred ones (i.e, Dr Fuckwit (she/her).

When something is this stupid (university banning the preferred pronoums) , why not display it in all it's stupid glory?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Nazis love erasing peoples identity

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

There are no pronouns in symbols ♂, ♀

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Just in case anyone is wondering what all the pronouns are. Here is a list of the standard, non standard, informal, and archaic pronouns in the English language

And it at least implied that you couldn't use any of these words at all in an email. So simple phrases like; can you do this or I am able to do that. Would be out.

Personally I think we should just start using the archaic forms just to confuse people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Personally I think we should just start using the archaic forms just to confuse people.

If I get to compose emails like I'm Frog from Chrono Trigger, I am all about it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thou shouldst do as thou pleases.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

This opens the door for malicious compilance, one can report Bible quotes with pronouns and similar as bad.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Surely it should be a choice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Republicans really aren't fans of letting people make their own choices. You could even say that they aren't pro-choice.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I'd comply and remove that info from the signature. I'd just start every email with:

Hello,

Thanks for reading my email. In case we're not already familiar, my pronouns are he/him and I'm affiliated with...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

nah just remove all pronouns

Smith,

Name Emma Jones and sophomore Thursday General Physics Class. Writing because in class yesterday mentioned having open positions research lab. found summary of project very interesting, would like learn and talk joining lab. Time in weeks could meet?

Thank time and look forward hearing soon

Best regards,

Emma

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I love this. It screams "Why use lot word when few word do trick."

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Just replace the pronouns.

"Hi. Steve was wondering if Steve could go ahead and start Steve's next project since Steve's current project is now in review? Steve would be working with Kevin on Steve's next project and Steve knows that Kevin is wrapping up Kevin's project this week so Steve and Kevin could start next week"

Doesn't that sound so much more professional? 🙄

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I think I would go with something like this:

I am female but university policy forbids me to tell you my pronouns. I have a Native American ancestry but university policy forbids me to tell you if I have a tribal affiliation.

Probably in extra-large bold text.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (12 children)

I wonder if that would be considered discrimination based on race and sex.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

“I was told that I had 5 days to remove my tribal affiliation and pronouns,” Little said in an email to The Associated Press. “I believe the exact wording was that I had ‘5 days to correct the behavior.’

"Correct the behavior" just means setting the style to bold and increasing the font size, though.

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