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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a model. She wasn't even involved in the 11 Israeli deaths at the 1972 Olympics. So why chase after her?

Is simply being born and raised in Palestine/by Palestinian parents a bad thing now? This is just the Eric Saade situation all over again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I mean, they're working hard to exterminate the entire population, it's not hard to believe they don't want them in shoe advertisements.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Seriously though... How the fuck does Israel have so much influence? Like, okay the West needs a puppet state in the middle east for... Reasons... But how does the puppet state end up in control of everything?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

At some point in the 60s, the Israeli government realized that the awful things that were done to them (and let's be clear, many many others who were not Jewish) during WW2 gives them cover to get away with basically anything if they go about it the right way.

Including almost literally the atrocities that happened to them. It's like generational trauma on the national level or something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I wish us gays and disabled folks had gotten that card. Gays weren’t even let out… The roma also really need it.

But yeah, it’s a country forged in response to unspeakable trauma. To many Israelis and their supporters the idea of not protecting the nation of Israel at all costs is seen as antisemitism, in part because part of the purpose of the nation is to be a bulwark and refuge against antisemitic violence. And it has served that role, the evacuated the Jews from Ethiopia. And if they had found some uninhabited land to create that nation I’d’ve been one of their biggest supporters (well apart from the ethnostate thing). But uninhabited land was either terrible or nonexistent by the 20th century and they did a settler colonial genocide to get their country and keep invading their neighbors. They still see Palestine not as a land that people have lived in for centuries, where even non-Semitic inhabitants have become indigenous, but rather their territory that the international community is refusing to allow them to kick off the people who’ve been squatting there since the Roman Empire forced most of them out.

The non-Palestinian Jewish community is an eternally diasporic community. And that’s brutal. I understand how fucking rough it is to be a permanent minority of everywhere and I get wanting a land of your own. Add in the fact that the perpetrators of the Nakba were largely hardened holocaust survivors or people who had just watched it happen, it makes sense that they’d make the choices that are hard but may seem necessary. But that doesn’t justify continuing invasion and genocide in Palestine generations later. At a certain point enough is enough. They aren’t allowed to be as evil as Americans were in our founding because nobody was supposed to do that.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They know liberal sensibilities very well.

Like planting trees to displace Palestinians. They can play the uncritical like a fiddle.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

Or "donations", "sponsorships", and similar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

bella is trash. the groups she retweeted surely are scum. seriously. she can f right off with all her antisemitism. what a piece of trash. adolf dassler too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What anti-semitism? Could you share a link or some screenshots or something?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I can’t read the first page because I’m not German, but I couldn’t see any examples of anti-semitism on the second page - just criticism of the state of Israel. Maybe you could highlight just one example for us of what you feel is her most blatant anti-semitic remark?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Still waiting for some actual examples of her antisemitism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

learn to read and get on x. its all there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The burden of proof lies with you, since you have made the statement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Boycott Adidas for supporting genocide.

All Day Israel Dreams About Slaughter, ADIDAS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Someone probably should tell Israel that Adidas made shoes and anti-tank weaponsey for the Nazis. Don't forget that the founder was a Nazi party member.

Both Dassler brothers joined the Nazi Party (NSDAP) in May 1933 and became members of the National Socialist Motor Corps. Adolf took the rank of Sportwart in the Hitler Youth from 1935 until the end of the war. During the war, the company was running the last sport shoe factory in Germany and predominantly supplied the Wehrmacht with shoes. In 1943, their shoe production was forced to cease operations and the company's facilities and workforce was used to manufacture anti-tank weapons. From 1942 to 1945, at least nine forced labourers were working at both sites of the company.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adidas

To be fair, Adidas did give a pair of shoes to Jesse Owens during the 1936 Olympics. Adidas may not be full on Nazis however they were willing to work with the Nazis to make money.

So I guess in Israel's mind: Donating money to Palestinians to help with relief during the war is bad while working with the Nazis is fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It's not like manufacturers had much choice in what they produced back then, the Nazis had a command economy. It was basically be expropriated or do as we say. The whole Nazi accusation stuff goes deeper than that, though, in particular, it includes a whole family feud:

During the war Rudolf Dassler was called to the front, while Adi Dassler stayed home. Rudolf came to believe, and the truth has never been properly established, that Adi pulled strings to have him sent to the front and after the Allied powers first shut down the company (because war supplier) and then re-opened it (because Jesse Owens) Rudolf told the Allies about the forced labour aspect. Frenchmen, btw.

The brothers quickly became irreconcilable and split the company. Rudolf then founded Puma taking with him basically all the sales staff, Adi was left with a ton of shoemakers and re-named the company Adidas. Their families and companies are feuding to this day.

That is to say: You don't impress Adidas by saying "boycott Adidas". Go with "buy Puma", instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It’s important to keep in mind there were full on Nazis that weren’t entirely on board with the race science shit. Some just liked the economic side or wished the Jews would be elsewhere or whatever else. In the same way that some people vote Republican today over a single issue. That’s not a defense but rather a further condemnation, they were willing to join despite these things

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Netanyahu only regrets that Hugo Boss isn't still around to make his uniforms.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well that's annoying. No more wearing Adidas.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't trust an Adolf that didn't change his name by 1940.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

"Selling shoes while Palestinian" is the new "driving while black" it seems.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So like, the ad didn't even say anything about the genocide in Palestine? It just starred a half-Palestinian model?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not on Israel's side in the current conflict, but if you're going to reference the 1972 Olympics and the killings use a model that isn't from a country that's part of the conflict.

...but honestly what the hell are you doing referencing a terrorist attack to sell shoes?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only reference made is that something called Olympics took place in 1972. It's ridiculous as she wasn't even born

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Right but what happened in the 1972 Olympics? If you release a 1972 Olympic sneaker, you have to think about how you contextualize the release.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So do you think they would get the same backlash for using a south African person in an advert because Oscar Pistorious was from SA and did atrocious?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

SA didn’t do something though, he did. So that logic doesn’t really work. We’re talking about someone who has been an outspoken advocate about the war and she’s in an ad for the 1972 Olympics

A more appropriate analogy would be a 9/11 memorial sneaker. Who would you put in that ad?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

The 1972 sneaker is still being sold though.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

There will always be context in anything you do, but unless she ever made an apology of this attack, the official Israeli tweet is just racism. Mind you I am not surprised from an apartheid state, but yeah it sucks that Adidas didn't reply along the lines that they do sport, not politics.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Hey now if that was the reason that would mean the Israelis are racist, but they’re the most moral country in the world. So surely it couldn’t that!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can we see the original ad? Is it photo or video?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

A half Palestinian wearing a shoe is the entirety of the alleged offense

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Say stupid shit get bit.

Bella has said some insane shit that seems to get echoed here quite often.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anti semitism is when a Zionist doesn't like you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

In this case it was sharing Hamas propaganda that was not true. It would be easier to sympathize with you infantada if you'd actually take 5 minutes to look into what Hamas' aims actually are and the means they use to carry them out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

In this case it was sharing Hamas propaganda that was not true

[citation needed]

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Substantiate your extraordinary claim that Hadid was sharing Hamas propaganda or stfu.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Intifada is the correct spelling.

What did she share that wasn’t true?

People always say oh that’s Hamas propaganda but nobody mentions Israel’s propaganda for murdering tens of thousands of innocent people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Infantada fits better. Get it, Infant since you're all children defending literal terrorists, and tada cause I revealed the joke! 🤣

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Who is defending literal terrorists?

I will condemn the actions of Hamas, just as fervently as I will condemn the actions of Israel.

Strange how you will condemn the killing of innocent people, unless it’s a retaliatory response to the murder of innocent people. Double standards.

FYI: Insulting people really isn’t going to bring people round to your point of view, and it speaks volumes about your mentality.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

Anti semitism is when a Zionist doesn't like you.