Pls don't kill me for posting this. A holy warrior already smote the guy that drew it 🙏
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My question is, if it is supposedly abominable to show a picture of Mohamed, thus there are no extant pictures of him, how does the claim that any particular doodle of a guy in a turban with a beard actually is a depiction of Mohamed stand up to logical scrutiny? (That was a rhetorical question. I know my error was actually in including the word "logic.")
You can't prove it's actually him. This could just be the Continuing Adventures of Captain Bomb Hat, an individual completely unrelated.
- Draw racist caricature
- Label it "Mohammad"
Twelve people were gunned down for publishing a cartoon of Muhammad.
A teacher was beheaded for showing a drawing of Muhammad.
Cartoonist drew Muhammad, leading to Danish embassies being attacked and riots broke out and people died. Later, people broke into his house to try to kill him.
Cartoonist had to live under police protection because of threats.
Creators of South Park were threatened for including Muhammad in an episode of the show.
Salman Rushdie was stabbed on stage
A teacher forced into hiding for showing a picture of Muhammad
I don't care if you want to claim all religions are equally capable of violence.
There is only one religion I'm deathly afraid of pissing off if I choose to criticize them publicly.
There was a time in Europe where it was illegal to draw something to realistic thanks to the church.
There was also a time when it was believed that Jesus, being perfect, was incapable of change. It’s why so many old paintings of Jesus look like middle aged babies; They believed that Jesus was born with an adult’s body, just baby-sized. Cuz if he was perfect, there would be no room for change. So lots of old paintings of Jesus have him looking like a tiny middle aged man.
I love that he has a receding hairline there. Also that’s a bit old of a look for a man who died at like 30
That was like getting to 60 in today's terms
You're probably joking but if you're not, this idea pisses me off.
The average is skewed by childhood mortality at birth or due to childhood diseases and birth defects. If you made it to 20 in the Bronze Age and weren't killed by violence, there's a damn good chance you'd hit 60 or 70 years old.
I'm really confused about the "No one can have my picture but almost every single one of my male believers is going to carry my name" situation.
Religions are kind of weird, aren't they?
Fun fact: While pictures of Mohammed are a no-no for Sunnis (Arabic World), it's a common thing for Shias (Iran mostly).
This one?
No this is a common misconception. That's Brian, and he is a very naughty boy
What's up with the casual Islamophobia recently?
Let's not make this into reddit.
I assure you that I take pleasure in offending religious fruitcakes of all sorts.
Offensive: "christians believe that an imaginary flying bearded man in the sky speaks to them"
Bigoted: "Muslims are barbaric murderers that will kill you for showing a picture of their prophet"
You see the difference there?
Can you expand on this point? It’s not immediately clear what difference you are trying to highlight.
One is mocking the belief of a group by portraying it as ridiculous, the other is a bigoted portrayal of a group as homicidal on the basis of their belief.
The meme isn't offensive toward 'religious fruitcakes' (the use of this word is kinda ironic but unrelated), it's actively bigoted and Islamophobic. Socsa was presumably defending the meme by saying they enjoy offending all religions and not just islam, and I was pointing out that the post wasn't simply offensive, it was bigoted.
Edit: responding here because this post was removed on my home instance for Islamophobia.
you’re still coming across to me as just saying “it’s never ok to criticize bad Islamic practices, it’s automatically bigotry.
It isn't a critique, it is portraying Muslims as fanatical murderers.
I assume you find the practice of brutally murdering people for the act of drawing a picture of a fictional character to be bad. How would you phrase a legitimate criticism of the practice without being bigoted?
In the same way that you would 'critique' Christianity, which justifies acts of terror such as bombing PFP clinics with Genesis 9:6, or Romans 13.
Extremists in Christianity are not seen as representative of the faith, but they are for Islam.