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The Three Kinds of Scientific Research (mander.xyz)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago

The secret fourth kind is 'we applied a standard theory to their map of every tree and got some suspicious results.'

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You can't have 1st and 2nd without the 3rd kind

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think the comic is about types of published articles with the 3rd being "we collated and collected a bunch of data to make this database that other researchers will find useful"-type papers. So you don't need to rely on the map of every tree if you just map some trees yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why though?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How do you make theories without observation?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

#3 is not about making observations in general but about making a map of every tree. This is a common mistake of scientists, wanting to have a complete set of data on their topic. I myself have to remind myself of this as well when designing projects. But in reality you cannot make a map of every tree and even if you could, what's it worth? You need abstractions to understand anything and models are just that. To design a good research study you need to balance how many observations are necessary vs how much effort they take.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like it's just useful for different use cases. You don't need to start with making a map of all trees everytime but it certainly would be handy if someone else had compiled a map of all / most trees for reference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It just isn't feasible. But maybe this is my ecological background speaking. Because, sure, if I'd look at different branches of science, it might be doable and also useful. But if you look at ecology (and making a map of every tree is ecology) then this just isn't useful enough for a task that is basically impossible to achieve. That's why in ecological research there are some standard sampling methods, like plots, transects, etc. Within these, you could do a map of all the trees if necessary. But these will be only a fraction of the whole system you look at.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

We have made some amazing discoveries with full-sky maps and analysis of the CMB. The human genome project has also yeilded a wealth of discoveries.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I like the way it kinda works regardless of if the punchline is about biological or computer science trees

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Don't forget ethnographers and the surname Tree

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The map from the third is the "circumstances" of the first two. Or the "results". First two just theorists, I guess.