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Every time I buy something online, or make an account for an example month bus ticket, they "need" my phone number. I always use alias emails, but I don't have an alias phone number. I know, there are some online phone nr service, but they mostly dosnt work, outside of the US. So I was thinking about getting me a second nr, just for thoese cases were I have to log in. I would by the nr, in cash, and there is nothing data they have to make the nr. But what are your thoughts? What do you see as pros and cons for getting a second nr.? Does it even make sense, when the simcard is in the same phone?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pro: the second line can be deactivated (“disconnected”) from the phone. Con: added cost.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

So yir its not that bad a idea. 😀 the Sim carrier is a one pay thing, so if I want to call from it or so, I have to put money on it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Getting another number helps a lot in my opinion. If you're getting another sim in the same phone, I suppose it would be possible for whatever cell carrier is providing the service to be able to link your two sim cards to your identity. However, for other companies, I don't know of a way they could gather that your second sim phone number is linked to your first one. For instance, if you created two Discord accounts with your two phone numbers, you could theoretically be two completely different users that won't be linked together. I would personally go for a second number.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yir that makes sense. It helps to hear from others, because my brain is getting so confused by over thinking the "problem" thank you for the answer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

During covid, i made a Google voice number so i didn't have to give my real number when we were working from home. It was fine for that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I got a second number for a while and saw no real benefits and went back to one

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I have been doing precisely that. You have your personal number and the secondary number that doesn't have to be attached to your name if you want. Ofc law enforcement and telecom companies will be able to trace you based on cell tower locations and phone model.

Pro: An extra disposable number to give out whenever people ask you for "we need your phone number for ShittyDiscount". Whenever the spam calls get annoying I simply pop it out and place another prepaid sim.

Con: Phones with dual sim support can be rarer to find and be more expensive depending on your country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Depends on your local laws and such, but in most European countries you can get a prepaid SIM card for a couple of euros/pounds/whatever at any supermarket, making them practically free. If you need a temporary number for a scammy special offer or any situation where your number is publicly visible (Gumtree, etc) it's a no-brainer IMHO.

If your phone suppprts running two SIMs at once, it has two IMEIs so as far as the network(s) are concerned it's two distinct handsets unless they deduce otherwise.

A fun aside: years ago I did some work for a small phone company (the company was small, not the phone) and they gave me a SIM with 100 numbers in a block and access to a portal I could manage them with. Sadly, I forgot to pay the annual £10 renewal fee.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a good question. Phone numbers are increasingly used as de-facto ID numbers, everywhere in the world. That's because, unlike email, they cost money, and in most jurisdictions you can't even get one anymore without presenting real ID. So: if you have a second phone number, you can effectively have a second persona for any site or app that requires phone-number ID. Seriously, at this rate, it's going to be all of them.

IMO the best use-case for this is to quarantine your contact list. That is, keep a separate number for social networks and messaging. The number you give to your in-person contacts will be instantly shared with all their cloud services, whether you like it or not. This is what allows Big Tech to triangulate and discover exactly who you know and therefore who you are. If the cloud services cannot trace a number back to any phone ID in their own books, then they can't do much with it and you will remain at least something of a mystery to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you. Well its gonna be a lot of work, to get all the contacts my new number, but yir just to get a little bit of privacy I think its worth it.