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I've tried using it over the years but I never liked it because there was no information. So last night I looked at my local city and there is almost no information at all. I spent a few hours last night adding buildings and restaurants and removing incorrect items. It was actually kind of fun and therapeutic and I plan to do more of it tonight. My girlfriend thinks it's dumb and I'm wasting my time because Google maps and Apple maps and Bing maps exists but she just doesn't understand open source.

Edit: Apologies, I just realized this question is not Linux specific.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've been editing OSM for years. (896,339 edits in 3,427 changesets, apparently!) For me, it's all about the free data. I once got a thank you note from someone who worked for a city with a particularly large municipal park. I'd added almost all the trails to the park and other information, and they'd used it to produce a printed map for the general public. Exactly the kind of thing I'd hoped for!

Personally, I do a lot of dualsport motorcycling and most backcountry maps around here are subpar. I map tons of trails and 2track and put them on the Garmin so I know where I'm going.

OSM is also great in lots of Europe--tons of detail.

JOSM is great.

Someone just recommended Organic Maps for the phone--it's way snappier than Google Maps, but still not great with finding addresses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What an awesome story to hear. I've been playing around with Organic Maps on my phone. I'll have to look into JOSM.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah josm is a lifechanger when you get used to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's really cool to hear about the parks. Most of the parks around here are pretty well mapped out. Presumably the local community is pretty strong.

I really want to produce something for my city's NET and BEECN emergency response programs. They already have a few different maps, but not one unified map. My ideal is a map that could be taken offline or printed to spec.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeah. Story time:

In the England we have ancient rights-of-way laws but a lot of private landowners try to block footpaths that cross their land. If a landowner can argue a footpath hasn't been used in (I think) two years they can have it removed, but in 2025 all the existing footpaths will be made permanent and indelible except with explicit local government permission so between now and then a lot of landowners will be rushing to get paths removed.

I've made a point of walking every footpath in my area and making sure they're all documented on OSM. If any of the landowners try to get a path removed I have my GPS tracks as proof of use.

Edit: FWIW, I find OSM to be the best map for rambling. Google and Apple don't come close and OSM even gives Ordinance Survey a run for it's money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Was that plan scrapped from what I can tell? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60418555 Is there still risk of the right of way paths being fenced up/privatized fully?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's really nice! Thank you for your service!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you very much for your efforts, there’s a lot of inertia about mapping places with low amounts of detail. Remember to reach out to your local OSM communities for advice, and the OSM wiki.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://streetcomplete.app/ is a fun way to contribute to OSM and do something else instead of just "walking" if you want to get outside a bit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just to piggy back on here Every Door (https://every-door.app/) is so awesome if you wanna add/update shops and other small points of interest on the go. Highly recommend it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is seriously awesome! Thank you for suggesting this.

I have added a small amount of area around my city but this will make it much easier to fill in the gaps.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

OSM is huge for backcountry. Hiking trails, skiing, etc. There is nothing better.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OSM is an awesome project I agree it is fun contributing to it but it is not as useful yet due to what you describe, details.

Finding addresses and other specific information is very hit or miss in some areas. Especially in the US where no one really cares about it other than tech corporations using it for quick info like street layouts.

My entire city has address numbers missing and for a long time I used an app on my phone (StreetComplete) to fix address numbers and other various details. But it can be overwhelming very quickly depending on how outdated or not updated your place is. Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time by the way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Try Everydoor as well. Another StreetComplete like App that's great for adding simple items

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in the UK and open street map has mapped out my local area more accurately than google. It is marginal, but I stopped using google maps after a few issues: I was hiking and it directed me into a privately owned farm (claiming it is a permissive footpath).The farmer was very racist.

Another time I was directed through the middle of a primary school.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I regularly use OSM data through Organic Maps (mostly for larger European cities). The app is really polished and is a joy to use. So far I'm not missing any features from Google Maps.

I've also updated some faulty business hours for some restaurants so I guess I've contributed back.

E: With the recent developments in the world of free online services (YouTube blocking ad-blockers, Google lying to their customers about its TrueView ads, Twitter rate limiting free access, the Reddit API fiasco), I wonder how much longer we can take free services like Google Maps for granted. Having an open alternative may become even more important in the future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

you like lemmy? it works because ppl contribute. osm...same! try https://streetcomplete.app and contribute!!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I downloaded it earlier today and went for a 1hr walk and submitted over 60 contributions. It's kinda addictive.

I love that you don't need constant internet connection to use it.

Thanks for the recommendation!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes I use OSM almost exclusively and have contributed to it.

Where I live, in Germany, OSM is pretty much on the same level as Google Maps and way better than Apple Maps. Sometimes there is outdated info but you can quickly correct it. Sometimes I double check stuff with GM. Some information is even better than GM. But I think Germany has a pretty strong OSM community, at least in my city.

I use Organic Maps on iOS.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, not only do I map, I show it to friends and how useful it is to me in specific situations. Bing and apple use osm data just like tomtom or many governments and many apps.

To me, spreading the word is more important than mapping. But I have to map in order to show how good it is. Moreover, it forces me to go out and hike and bike. That's awesome!

I had to make a full overhaul of my area but now it's awesome. I couldn't have done it without others, thank you guys as well!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I travel quite a bit, both for work and for pleasure, so when I have an hour or two to burn I take a walk around and make some contribution with StreetComplete.
It seems like I've found a new way of being a tourist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My girlfriend thinks it’s dumb and I’m wasting my time because Google maps and Apple maps and Bing maps exists but she just doesn’t understand open source.

Time to move on, she ain't the one. /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You need a girlfriend you can recompile yourself from source!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I decided to give it a try over the weekend on a road trip, through the apps Organic Maps and Go Map!! I really liked Go Map!! except that it crashes occasionally, and won't restart until your reinstall it :( loosing all the GPS tracks and unsubmitted data :(( If it was more stable, I'd recommend it to everyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use it quite often, but only recently began contributing. And as they (very) wisely say at the bottom of the wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions ):

WARNING: OpenStreetMap is highly addictive Take frequent breaks, there is a lot to be done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Currently at 319 contributions on OpenStreetMap since the 22 of December 2022 some part of south Italy are not mapped at all so I'm trying my best to make at least usable.

If someone want to contribute to osm StreetComplete let you add simple tags to already existing tags and let you add stores with a monstrous simplicity!

Anyway tell your girlfriend that apple maps and bing maps use data from openstreet map and are huge contributors to the project, in fact the default map when you edit in osm is from bing!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hi! Wrong sub? No worries, our ~~subreddit~~community ([email protected]) is right here as well!

Did you also know that Apple Maps and Bing Maps use OSM data too in some areas, for some types of categories? Bing even has cloned an OSM-editing program.

Furthermore, you can use https://mapcomplete.osm.be to add shops or other POI. (Obligatory shill as I'm the main dev of that one ;) )

pietervdvn

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Contributed a very little. Been using it ina Top metro city for .ore than a year. Heavily reliable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use it all the time with OSMand. and i have contributed to OSM for years. I just had a look - i start in Sep 2010 (13 years!) and all of my edits (except for a humanitarian tracing excersice for mozambique) i have been to. it is a niice spread:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ooohh!! Please, post a bit in the lemmy community as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We use OSM quite a bit for various things at my job (transport logistics software). We're generally concerned with UK cities, where the coverage is quite good, however we often find little things which aren't quiiiite right and make a fix or two.

It's a really cool project, overall

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, all the time. Great job helping out the project! Contributing is super valuable, even if it's just a bit.

Check out if you haven't, the app "Street Complete". It allows you to really quickly add information to OSM in a fun gamified way.

It automatically finds your location and gives you little pop-up questions like, "what kind of crosswalk is here?" And, "where is this fire hydrant located?"

I go on walks in my area and will contribute that way too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Once you want to bulk edit on the go, use "every door". "SC" or "SCEE" (feature richer SC) aren't designed to update a large area quickly. (Check out each app when you become a serious mapper or want to make a real difference. Knowing the osm tools (and josm ofc) is highly important for efficiency.

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