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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mastodon is a Software, the stuff is hosted by others. What a idiotic, click bait and wrong headline.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's software that also serves as a method to distribute and access it. But ultimately, it doesn't matter, the resulting pushback will be the same.

The conclusion of the study was basically that the biggest players should enter the fediverse in order to use their capabilities to scan and police it.

Wherever this shit exists, unwanted attention and scrutiny will follow, while the reputation of the platform will be harmed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's like blaming vbulletin for Nazi forums or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This will literally do nothing, the people conducting the study obviously have absolutely no idea how federation and the fediverse in general work...

And the big Players will be thrown out by everyone else, we are here because we hate them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the people conducting the study obviously have absolutely no idea how federation and the fediverse in general work...

How do you know that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Study:

Mastodon = Server hoster

Mastodon = Responsible for content

Mastodon = able to moderate

Reality:

Mastodon ≠ Server hoster

Mastodon ≠ Responsible for content

Mastodon ≠ able to moderate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yup. Might as well blame Nginx.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Windows is the No. 1 OS amongst cocaine, heroine and meth dealers. Time for a crackdown.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

And here we go with the corporation funded clickbait folks...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well, then http[s] also has this problem

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

People need to read the actual report it is actually reasonable in its findings and actually offers solutions: https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io/news/addressing-child-exploitation-federated-social-media

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They’re basically saying the fediverse has a bunch of creeps lurking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Somewhere we went from finding those who do wrong and punishing them to censor everything because everyone is bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Anything that allows people to escape their corporate controls will be ostracized by these people. I laugh in LEMMY

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And here we go.

This will be one of the Fediverse's biggest obstacles.

Need to get this under control somehow or else in a few years, tech companies, banks, and regulators will decide a crackdown on the fediverse as a whole is needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The fediverse is the name for services that use ActivityPub - a communication protocol. What you are saying is like saying “tech companies, banks and regulators need to crack down on http because there is CSAM on the web”.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Reposting because the comments on the earlier post were far too informative in explaining the truth.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just added “Stanford researchers” to my list of stupid people

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/20/stanford-president-resigns-following-research-ethics-probe

The president of Stanford University has stepped down in the wake of an independent investigation that found “substandard practices” in research papers he was involved in.

Already plenty of support for your cause.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they went on mastodon and started searching for CP? WTF is wrong with these sick people? I hope they're on an FBI list now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So your advice to any organization seeking to minimize illegal activity is to willfully ignore any trace of it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"I swear, officer, I was just searching for CP to catch OTHER people!"

It would be just as pathetic as that scene from Something About Mary. "Yeah I was just going to pee, too!"

Maybe they had some kind of legal sanctioning to do it, but holy crap, I wouldn't want that in my search history. I would hope software like that has some mechanism where if people search for certain words it results in an automatic reporting to some FBI API somewhere. I actually know of a couple of people who got caught with that stuff. One got 25 years. The other jumped bail and they eventually caught him. I'm not sure if he's been sentenced yet but I bet he'll get double of what the other guy who cooperated got. Those people are creepy AF and nobody in their right mind would want to be associated with any of it. Those people are 10 times worse than neo nazis.

The funny thing is the first guy, everybody could kind of tell he was a creep. But the FBI caught him and he completely cooperated and admitted everything. The second guy, he really seemed like he was going to be the only person in his family who actually turned out to be a decent guy. He was a really sweet kid in a super trashy family. And then all of a sudden everything goes down and everybody is in shock. Then he jumps bail. Last I heard his dad was about to lose his house because he used it as collateral to bail his piece of shit son out of jail.

This open source software needs to include code that reports certain search terms. There are ML algorithms out there that can automatically detect this stuff. Do not search for that kind of content, thinking you're some sort of vigilante. There are ways to deal with this shit without putting yourself in serious legal peril.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think you understand how a research organization works. This isn't three guys in a basement searching for child porn. It's a research institute at Stanford University. They'll have gotten funding to do the work by applying for federal grants, getting approval from multiple Institutional Review Boards who are charged with, among other things, making sure that the people involved in the research are appropriately taken care of. They'll be required to have counselors on board. However "legit" you think such an outfit might possibly be, multiply that by three.

This is their job. It is the same as if they worked for a law enforcement agency. When someone gets arrested for child porn, we don't also charge the police, prosecutors, and judges who might have to look at the material as part of prosecuting a case. I promise you Stanford isn't paying a team of professors and postdocs to just diddle themselves to kiddie porn all day.