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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And another question: did someone already lay out a roadmap to google's collapse?

Right now we're going through a financial crisis, big tech needs to start making proper money so they try to squeeze the users. Google hopes to "drm the internet" to maximise ad revenue. Let's assume they succeed. 3 years from now the dystopia of dead adblockers is live, google and other leeches make bank off ads.

But there's no more adblockers and no more ad revenue left to squeeze out (because every internet user is already chained to a screen and force fed ads within ads). And shareholders demand increase in profits. What do they do then? Is there any hint of a long-term strategy? How long before the maximum theoretical ad revenue is reached and plateaus? Then COVID29 or something comes, fed raises rastes again and...?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Use Firefox.

Support Firefox.

Using alternative Chromium based browsers is not it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Firefox is wonderful 💯

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even if they do that, some people will just create illegal website mirrors that remove ads.

On reddit, people already copy paste articles when there's a paywall. I can totally envision that thing to be more common.

I am not fucking kidding, I will stop using websites if I cannot block ads. This is non negotiable. I don't care about your business model, I have zero money to give you. I tried the official reddit app, and uninstalled within a week.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've even seen websites that copy stackoverflow questions and answers word for word, and just displays them differently.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I said this the other day and had a user suggest there's no point because Google will win, and it'll be impossible to avoid this DRM garbage. They didn't seem to grasp that you can just not use the websites that use that tech.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

I hope **chrome **fails terribly. Just like Internet Explorer(IE). Firefox all the way

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It was not hilarious when MS tried to control stuff like this with IE.

This is a boring fight, and it is why tech companies need a broken up and a kick in the profits/pants.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

And then the plan to force everyone to abandon Firefox whether they like it or not.

  1. Implement the misfeatures.
  2. Movie and music websites will be the first to announce requiring DRM to be able to watch movies or listen to tunes.
  3. The banks will be next. "For your safety, you must use an Official Approved Browser™ to be allowed access to your money!"
  4. Then ecommerce sites. "You must have DRM enabled to be allowed to buy anything."
  5. Then comes the social media sites. For your safety, of course...

At that point, the userbase of anything that's not Chrome or not DRM'd to death will be so eroded that virtually everyone else will abandon Firefox support, DRM will get enabled by default. Also, comes the lobbyists to Congress demanding changes to the DMCA to throw users in prison who dare to try to crack the DRM to block ads. "Ad-blocking is stealing!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just means I'll have the shittiest Chromebook I can buy used, for access to the sites you just listed, and my Linux laptop for everything else. If their non-financial, non-commerce site won't let me in with my adblocking Linux machine, I just won't go there. There will be lots of site still, run by us, that don't do this shit, and they'll get my traffic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I can bet that Google will spy on your home network from that shitty chromebook

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This right here is what has always scared me. The internet is getting more and more controlled and locked down as the years go on. The general population will not take up for, Linux, Firefox, etc. Neither will the services we now rely upon like banking etc. So we will be forced.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, Google, the Overlord of the Internet apperantly, wishes to make his Kingdom an uninhabitable hellscape of constant ad harrassment that anyone who wants to keep their sanity will interact with as little as possible, only going there when necessary.

Ok, then. Good luck with that Business.

Just wondering, will one day Humanity, who has pretty much agreed in perfect unison completely independent from each other, since the golden age of television, that we all hate ads, finally be heard?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Use Firefox.

Even the Android version lets you install uBlock Origin.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

The year is 2023, every single major tech companies are racing each other to become Public Enemy No. 1. And the only Hero we have is the EU, will it be able to save the day?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I can’t imagine anyone who uses the internet thinking the current ad technology is effective, the web is broken because of ads

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It isn't Google Engineers wanting to do it. It's Google engineers being told to do it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

"Google engineers want..."

No. Google executives want this to happen. Google's CEO wants this to happen.

They want to change the internet and remove any little bit of freedom for their own corporate profits.

Fuck "do no evil" Google.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Do? No, evil.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google engineers want me to stop using anything from google

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't blame the engineers. It's leadership.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We warned you about Chrome. We told you bro.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Alright, today is oficially the day I switch to Firefox

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google and Chrome really need to be broken up. Maybe people should start writing (physical) letters to the FTC asking to review Google's recent actions as monopolistic behavior.

It wouldn't be the first time. But showing the interest is the best way to get the ball rolling that we can do.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Google engineers are making my chances of using a Chromium-based browser (near) impossible

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The internet is unusable without adblockers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’ve tried internet without adblock and it’s almost unusable.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why's everyone blaming the engineers lol, pretty sure they're just doing what they're told right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly, headline should be more like "Google executives want Google engineers to make ad-blocking (near) impossible"

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Related: https://lemmy.world/post/2235459

So, we will be forced to see ads, while they can’t yet control who’s publishing those ads. I wonder why Google (and any other ad company) hasn’t been sued yet for showing and infecting malware into the people who click on their ads. Maybe is not that critical or easy for a domestic user, but corporations or governments?

And it’s not because it’s impossible to verify malware before accepting their ads, it’s because THEY DONT CARE. If they can detect music on videos for copyright claims, they can analyze everything, they can also verify publishers. And if they can’t with an algorithm, they should use humans to manually verify publishers.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

News headline, October 2078

Google finds users are covering their ears and closing their eyes; releases nanobots to force eyes open and lock hands behind back.

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