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A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn't even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It's late here so I'll see how we proceed tomorrow.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This could not be any funnier. Please reddit, take legal control of the piracy subreddit, right as you take the experienced mod team out. I'm sure everything will go fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit will sure be a lovely site in a few months…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May their shareholders weep.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If you take away what the people want

You’re gonna have a bad time. ⛷️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sad to see what has happened to the community I've been a part of for the better part of my life.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

[removed by reddit]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

they're gonna love that sweet, sweet liability

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had a good hearty laugh thanks to your comment.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha what the fuck I really did NOT think they would do that to r/piracy of all things. Ah well fuck them and their shitty IPO. I‘m here with you guys for good, the structure of the fediverse suits our purposes and community better anyway.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would imagine that can lead to legal troubles endorsing r/piracy willingly?

Accepting it is one thing, but forcing it to open is entirely different.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I would imagine too, but who knows, there is a different set of rules for companies and the rich.

Now that Reddit is asserting direct control over it, maybe they‘ll turn it into an anti-piracy sub to prevent any legal trouble.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well I guess its time to flood r/piracy with magnet links as soon as the new jannies open it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also worth flooding them with ~~links~~ a map to where they can board the new ship where the 🏴‍☠️ flag still flies high.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Bonus points if they're Nintendo games!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why magnet links in particular?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean could be any link to copyright material but I generally grab magnet links so shrug

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obvious that this is automated and will be going out to all subs. They definitely wouldn't go to bat to keep a piracy sub open, unless they're even dumber than I thought.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

automated message, sure. But they demoded just me, which is obviously very exact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, what lovely timing to abandon ship

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not sure about the optics of Reddit force-reenabling a subreddit devoted to piracy LOL

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coming soon: rebranding /r/piracy to "pirate cosplay"

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

r/piracy after the IPO: piracy is unethical as it is stealing from the poor (companies). This is a community to discuss how to stop piracy and become responsible and dutiful consumers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So basically, according to Reddit, they own everything on Reddit. That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit's responsibility. Bold strategy, cotton. They're basically waiving their net neutrality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit’s responsibility.

Of course not, from reddit's ToS: "By submitting Your Content to the Services, you represent and warrant that you have all rights, power, and authority necessary to grant the rights to Your Content contained within these Terms. Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.

You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:

When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content." --https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-september-12-2021

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's their TOS. Their actions recently — namely undeleting user posts and comments — run directly counter to their TOS. They're essentially claiming ownership of the user submitted content by doing that.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lol, gtfo. Fuck that place anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

1: Funny we were all in here like two days ago saying "they'll probably be happy to have the piracy sub gone"

2: Any member of the existing mod team that helps them is a fucking scab

3: Everyone else has made a good point about some potential liability issues of reddit the corporation wresting control of the piracy subreddit into their own hands

4: There are so many layers of irony with a corporation saying people need to have access to the community that tells them how to commit copyright infringement and then forcing that information into the open despite what its caretakers wish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"In analyzing the availability of the immunity offered by Section 230, courts generally apply a three-prong test. A defendant must satisfy each of the three prongs to gain the benefit of the immunity:

  1. The defendant must be a "provider or user" of an "interactive computer service".
  2. The cause of action asserted by the plaintiff must treat the defendant as the "publisher or speaker" of the harmful information at issue.

3. The information must be "provided by another information content provider", i.e., the defendant must not be the "information content provider" of the harmful information at issue."

If Reddit the company is now picking and choosing who approves or blocks harmful information, are they an information content provider now? Are they liable if their chosen mods allow harmful content?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Arrgh, if it be mutiny then we stand by ye captain. Unfurl the sails and man the cannons ye land'lubbers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reopen with the new rules: All posts must relate to the golden age of piracy!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its an industrial lockout so classically you either organize and strike even harder or burn down the capitalist pigs factory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Our new ship is strong!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Seems like reddit openly aknowledging they have this kind of power, control, and willingness to take administrative action in a piracy sub would open them up to some DMCA issues for hosting it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here come the scab mods!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make sure you remove any and all bots created, and delete all the custom work you did. Reddit can probably restore it, but it'll take them time and effort to do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They can restore the bot accounts, sure, but they can't restore the servers that run those bot accounts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, didn't figure they'd go so blatantly mask off this early on. They must be nervous.

Also dumb. Have they never dealt with pirates before? Cut off one head and two more grow to replace it. Good luck you shmucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We'll just tell the pirates that what they're doing is wrong and they'll stop right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This bullshit made me nuke my 30k karma account. I hope lemmy won't die month later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (11 children)

That's literally impossible! An instance may go down, but it will stay cached.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, good thing that you prepared well in advance and have already built a nice alternative.

Reddit is done

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I reinvited you in case you care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

cheers. Rejoined

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That was enough to get me to officially sign up here.

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