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I know we're living in the crapsack timeline, but I didn't realize it was a crapsack made of little shit people that the Republicans sculpted like they were Play-Doh and then threw them in the sack and made screaming noises, pretending the little shit people were screaming, before declaring that sack to be their new second-in-command after Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They put a far right super majority in the supreme court, are trying to put their candidate in Congress as speaker and then re-elect him to the executive branch.

We all know they're fucking Nazis, but, just saying, this sure seems like some 1930's Germany shit, right now. Like it's obvious and all, but still needs to be said out loud.

Would be a lot cooler if we were not trying to replicate that shit.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If elected speaker, he would be third in line to the presidency. They were already ready to kill Trump's own VP on his behalf.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

On the bright side, he can't claim executive immunity or pardon himself if he was selected to be Speaker, since the legislative branch does not confer the same level of such protections, and he wouldn't be able to campaign as much, since he would have to do actual work.

On top of that, he would have a much smaller megaphone, much less power, and he would be a live-in distraction for the true believers in Congress.

Basically, he'd have to successfully assassinate two members of the executive branch who are around and guarded by numerous people at all times.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume he wouldn't just golf all the time anyway. Being president obviously posed little hindrance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I like the cut of your jib, but I don't think Speaker offers the same...erm..."flexibility" as the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Basically, he’d have to successfully assassinate two members of the executive branch who are around and guarded by numerous people at all times.

Or just manage to impeach them successfully. Which is unlikely, but possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

yeah.. but A LOT of those guys are now in prison too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not even close to enough to make a difference if this happens. For every convicted J6 insurrectionist, there's 100 willing to act that just didn't make it down to Washington that day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Willing to bet that number is a lot higher than 100, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

He is disqualified due to the 14th amendment.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

They don't care.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

Also, specific to the role of Speaker, he’s disqualified due to having been indicted of felonies with a term of more than two years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s not clear just yet that the law applies to him, in general.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My State of Colorado doesn't care about the court, we are going to ban him from the ballot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah, he wants to be second in line for the presidency so that his degenerate followers can perform some strategic assassinations and put him in the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

You can't deny it's a distinct possibility.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Lmao. I can see it already. He thinks he can be speaker and President.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Then he just needs to appoint himself as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and become the President of the Senate to fulfill his dream of running the entire government.

(Not doing any work, mind you. Just holding all the positions of power at once.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then he just needs to appoint himself as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and become the President of the Senate to fulfill his dream of running the entire government.

Our former prime minister actually did something like this. He secretly appointed himself as health minister, finance minister, industry minister, home affairs minister and treasurer. It was quite a big scandal that only came out after the election that kicked out his government and threw a lot of ministerial decisions made during that time into legal doubt, though nothing ended up coming from it.

Morrison was a lazy shit and only used his secret ministerial powers a few times, he just wanted to have the power for himself. His stated reason was "in case the existing ministers became incapacitated by COVID", but we already have assistant ministers that could fill in if that happened.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Fuck scummo. He was even worse than Abbott. At least he cared about some of us. Sure, they were all rich, white, Christian people, but he still cared about them. Scummo just cared about himself and no-one else. Also, it was kinda funny when Abbott ate his second unpeeled yellow onion on national tv. I mean, once is a mistake, twice is hilarious/concerning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Not yet

Ignites lightsaber

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Let's just skip all these stupid little technicalities and proclaim him Supreme Leader or King.

It's what the founding fathers would have wanted...

/s

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

LOL, donnie calling anyone else a traitor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Every word out of the guys mouth is projection.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can the House have a Speaker who isn’t an elected official? Has that ever happened before where the Speaker of the House wasn’t a Representative?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Afaik it's not explicitly ruled out by the Constitution, though it's never been done. It would be very unorthodox, especially if the speaker were in prison.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It can happen. However, it is generally not done because the House wants to be in charge of itself.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This was the first article I was able to find, as the question has apparently come up as recently as after John Boehner vacated the position: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/can-outsider-be-speaker-house-n441926

" The Constitution is silent on that question, saying simply, "The House of Representatives shall chuse (sic) their Speaker and other Officers."

The Clerk of the House agrees with the office of the House Historian, which says the speaker "has always been (but is not required to be) a House Member."

Most historians and legal experts who've looked at this issue conclude the founders simply assumed the speaker would be drawn from among elected members.

"It would have been unthinkable for the most populous house not to have its leader be part of the representatives who were elected by the people," says David Forte, a constitutional scholar at Cleveland State University.

"Nothing fits that would make the speaker anything other than a member of the house," except for the Constitution's silence on the issue, Forte says, noting that the Articles of Confederation said members of Congress shall have authority "to appoint one of their members to preside." "

Gotta love how the vagueness of the Founding Fathers is cause for serious debate after they just assumed something was obvious.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Welcome to why we have a mass shooting everyday. A comma and poof, no more well regulated required.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The USA was probably the most experienced in writing constitutions at the time, both on a national scale and a state scale. Even then, there wasn't that much experience compared to today and a failure of a state government could easily be corrected by the King. These were smart men trying to create a workable compromise, but they weren't perfect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They were all educated and well connected, but I think it'd be a stretch to say they were all smart. I don't know if we have enough information to make that claim. I don't like the worship of the founding fathers. They likely weren't particularly special people, but their circumstances were.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I don't think it is hero worship to say they were smart.

We have letters of enough of them to get an idea that they understood and could debate on a wide variety of topics. They were also able to put together a surprisingly stable government at a time when this wasn't guaranteed.

They were all flawed men in their own ways, but I wouldn't call them stupid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

That’s rich (unlike Trump) calling someone else a traitor.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Uh didn’t he explicitly say that he wasn’t interested in the speakership like a day or two ago? That was a quick about-face.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Can you even imagine the Democrats worshipping a candidate who was found liable for rape, liable for fraud, and who was out on bail for several incredibly serious crimes, for which there is overwhelming evidence of his guilt on the public record?

Republicans are disgusting. They are a cancer. The whole party is full of the most anti-American, anti-basic-decency traitors the world has ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

He sure loves playing pretend.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The speaker of the house isn't just the guy who talks a lot, Donnie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

You are out of your element

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh they definitely are all giant sentient bags of shit for sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think ‘sentient’ is WAAAAAAYYY too generous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Pre-sapient perhaps?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Bags of shit are useful.

They aren't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Gotta have something real for it to be treason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Probably because it's three months from the SOTU and he can sit behind President Biden and be on TV