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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

::: spoiler Transing my gender and suddenly having my nips get banned ooooooooooooooh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why are women's nipples considered unacceptable anyway? It seems really sexist in my opinion to say that male nipples are acceptable but female ones aren't

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You answered your own question there - sexism and patriarchy, which need women as objects and property, not individuals worthy of individual freedoms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In a decent number of countries, they are pretty relaxed. You go there, you see nipple (or dick) for 5 seconds, it's notable, then it fades into the background. People are just anal-retentive about it because of religion and family culture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Some people enjoy being anal-retention to dicks, I am unsure about the logistics of doing that with a nipple

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It wasn't actually the nipple, it was the breast.

But as it's a gradual transition and cleavage, side-boob, underboob, straps and pasties have become normalized, the nipple is the only part left to define as the subject of the "issue", as it's the most distinguishable, visually separate and definable part.

The conservative prudes would prefer a more comprehensive ban, but struggle immensely in legally defining the line of "okay/not okay" in a court of law. They find it much easier to enforce certain clothes as legally obligatory for women, but there's very little support for that kind of oppression in most parts of the world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It's just because of sexualixation and prude people pressuring the fuck out of those platforms. Although a bit unnecessary imho I don't mind seeing a tiddy on insta, they'll have to add a nsfw tag tho. Insta is prob going to decline into even more onlyfans advertisements

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

and when someone transitions... it's ... the /same/ nipple, but it used to be illegal and unseemly - but now is perfectly legal to show everywhere ,,, strange.....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've seen a surgery documentary on TV about transitioning. They showed the surgeon doing the breast surgery. It was all uncensored, nipples and all, until the very second the doc put the silicone bag under the skin. Then they pixelated the nipple. The same nipple they were showing all along.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Makes you wonder at what size of breasts does it become NSFW and should men with boobs be censored? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Came here to tell the same story. They used to play some crazy shit on TLC before the reality show takeover.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

idea: cover post-transition nipple with pre-transition nipple

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Or visa versa.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

For the other way round it would be vice versa, which is even more funny IMO - all of a sudden showing your previously legal nipples in public is now illegal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, and all nipples are not equal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd love to know how you think this is relevant to op?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Because we are talking about unacceptable female nipple, isn't it?

Or maybe the problem isn't the nipple itself, but the context in which it's shown.

And, after all, your are still free to put OP's male nipple on these pictures :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We had a high school assistant principal who made the men's swim team cover their nipples in yearbook photographs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they put on bikini tops for the photos?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They put their hands over their nipples but I like your idea better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

gonna be real awkward if one day that nipple model transitioned...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not only are female breasts legal where I live IRL, many Lemmy communities consider them SFW under non-sexual conditions. Godspeed everybody, free the nipple!