This is sick. Kudos to mods for dealing with this garbage. I hope the posters are all hunted down and punished.
this post was submitted on 28 Aug 2023
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Yeah, the admins deserve all our support on this. Not only to protect themselves as server owners, but to stop the spread. Hopefully a longterm solution will be found soon
We had to deal with something similar on lemmygrad a while ago. All power to you for destroying these annoying bastards.
How did you guys deal with this?
We doubled the amount of mods, and banned anything remotely resembling the things on-site. Sadly many times it had to be a brave lemmygrad to check it first and take the bullet for us to report it. I was one of those people on several occasions. I still cringe at the memories. It lasted a few months iirc.I haven't seen whatever is hitting you guys, but our bots had some recognizable features, usually hiding their spam behind spoilers or links.
It really was just a mobilization, lockdown, and purging everything that was suspicious until it stopped. That or they found a way to block those bots. I wasn't in the command center by any means so the internal decisions I don't know too much about.
My honest reaction to this:
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I think this is a great move until we have something rock solid to prevent this. There are tons of image hosting sites you can use (most of which have the resources to already try to prevent this stuff) so it shouldn’t really cause much inconvenience.
I honestly think this is the reason why message boards generally don't have the feature to attach images to posts anymore.
If you're concerned about legal liability I think it's worth noting that there is some protection for websites in this matter. For the most part as long as you're taking "reasonable action" against it you're not liable, and that most laws take into consideration the resources of the site dealing with the uploads.
Not pleasant for users though of course. And the speed at which its handled is obviously a concern.
I know there are automated tools that exist for detection CSAM- given the challenges the fediverse has had with this issue it really feels like it'd be worthwhile for the folks developing platforms like lemmy and mastodon to start thinking about how to integrate those tools with their platforms to better support moderators and folks running instances.
Better shut the internet down then. This will only continue to worsen now that anybody can generate whatever images they want with AI assistance. Such image hashes will not be in CSAM databases (if AI generated imagery is even CSAM)