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Hi, I'm sure there's a fair number of us who would like to see fantastic stories for the WPs that we find go unanswered.

I would like to know the LLMs that everyone might be using to answer the Writing Prompts that don't get answered, but they would like a story anyway. I doubt an LLM can match the creativity of a human writer, but I know hardly anything about Machine Learning, which is why I decided to ask here.


Just to be clear: I didn't mean for the LLMs to answer the writing prompts instead of humans. I just wanted to know if there are such LLMs so I could feed it the WP for my own satisfaction in reading. Not for people who would rather have a human writing them.

Cheers!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

What's even the point of posting a writing prompt or opening one if it's just going to be answered by a program?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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Hey, I didn't mean for the LLM to write the response to the WP publicly, but for my own satisfaction for reading a good story. I wouldn't be posting such responses online anyway

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There's plenty of humans who write phenomenal stories, stories far better than any bot will make.

Give them a shot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are there people who will write stories from prompts if I just ask them to? I'd expect for them to reject my request, very few people have the time. Wouldn't they have written already it if they had wanted to?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, absolutely, you might have to pay them, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Human labor is generally more expensive. Ai is generally cheaper. My funds are limited. Guess which one I will pick.

I am not saying one is better then the other. Both have advantages.

Is your phone hand assembled? Are your cloths hand made? The planks from your bed are cut into shape by a human? Machine labor is generally cheaper and we all have to cut costs somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

So I often give a prompt to an llm for my shadowrun game, then take the llm out put clean it up and use it for my game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Producing quality text isn’t just a single skill. You need to come up with a good idea, write some text about it, delete half of it, turn the remaining part inside out, cut it to pieces, rearrange everything, delete everything, start over etc. it’s a lengthy process where the actual writing isn’t even the biggest part. Asking an LLM to write it for you will speed things up, but you still need to make all the big decisions yourself. You are still the captain of the ship while the LLM makes the propeller move.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

blind lemmy downvoting moment:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please don't, if someone wants that,, they can just go do it themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hey, I didn't mean for the LLM to write the response to the WP publicly, but for my own satisfaction for reading a good story. I wouldn't be posting such responses online anyway

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'd rather see no responses than any "written" by an LLM. I say that having come across several interesting prompts without any responses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Copied from the other comment:

Hey, I didn't mean for the LLM to write the response to the WP publicly, but for my own satisfaction for reading a good story. I wouldn't be posting such responses online anyway

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’ve had good results running models like:

https://huggingface.co/ehartford/Wizard-Vicuna-13B-Uncensored

In KoboldAI.

You have to tweak the generation parameters substantially though if you want anything original, but if you go too far the grammar starts suffering.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks, will take a look

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

GPT 4 can write decently but it's either going to be a bit corny or very derivative. Really a LLM is the wrong type of AI for this task. A GAN (a type of Generative AI) built for writing is going to produce a lot better text in terms of creativity and bringing something new to the table. If it's too out there you could then pass that through GPT to fix any potential language issues or coherency issues (in terms of language, GPT can't fix plot holes well).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks. I'll take a look if I can run such a GaN privately. I didn't mean for the LLM to write the response to the WP publicly, but for my own satisfaction for reading a good story. I wouldn't be posting such responses online anyway.

Thanks again for pointing out the differences between them