this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2023

623 points (96.1% liked)

Technology

58061 readers

31 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.

Our Rules

Follow the lemmy.world rules.
Only tech related content.
Be excellent to each another!
Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
Politics threads may be removed.
No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

623

Any idea what Google are doing? Is this because I dont use Chrome (use Firefox)? I've no adblockers. (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

204 comments fedilink hide all child comments

So this started coming up today. On every video. I can (so far) click the "x" and remove it to watch (still see 2 ads before the video, and one after 4 minutes - ruins music on YT), but did click the "Report issue" only for the dialogue box not to work.

I found a link to a that said 11% use adblock. Thats not a lot.Maaayyyybe there is a problem with the amount of ads youtube forces down our throats for even short videos. 🤷‍♂️

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] [email protected] 318 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Their detection script is probably trying so hard that it hits false positives.

Ironically, with an up-to-date uBlock Origin, you wouldn't see this popup.

[–] [email protected] 219 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sooo..., you'll literally need to use adblocker to use YouTube. Interesting.

[–] [email protected] 114 points 11 months ago (7 children)

It really is given that they've willingly entered a game of cat and mouse and chosen to assume the role of a blind, limbless mouse.

As others have said before me, I feel for the poor engineers who have to implement this stuff as any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

any technical solution short of DRM is provably impractical and unworkable.

Don’t give them ideas.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They already have plans to DRM the entire fucking web. That's why I am currently cutting google out of my life step by step.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, YT is the last holdout for me. It’s literally the only Google service I willingly sign up for. I’ve tried Piped/Invidious, but they don’t match YTs quality.

load more comments (2 replies)

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They're way ahead of you, they already started implementing it in Chrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Environment_Integrity

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s bullshit like this that made me give up all Chromium browsers earlier this year. I used to be a complete Google simp, but those days are well behind me. They’re motto these days might as well be “Do evil.”

load more comments (2 replies)

load more comments (6 replies)

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Are you sure? Or is it because you're not in the test group?

I'm on nightly/up to date ublock and i see it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I've been wondering if it's uBlock Origin or me not being part of the test yet. Sounds like the latter. Shit.

load more comments (6 replies)

load more comments (5 replies)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

I actually installed ublockorigin after hitting these types of messages on a few sites. I think howtogeek does the same thing.

load more comments (9 replies)

[–] [email protected] 121 points 11 months ago (14 children)

It’s really great when you put on some calming music for sleep that’s 8 hours long and has an ad break every 5 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How dare you complain about their aggressive monetization practices, won't you think of the record corporate profits.

load more comments (1 replies)

load more comments (13 replies)

[–] [email protected] 104 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I've heard Firefox's inbuilt tracking protection often trips whatever detection method they're using, and like, I'm not turning that off for Youtube.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Quick someone post that 3rd party YouTube interface for Android. Preferably on F-Roids. I need it.

This is the Internet so let's settle this quickly and efficiently.

The best 3rd party YouTube interface is called Kuhmbus.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (4 children)

NewPipe has been my go-to for years. Available on F-Droid with regular updates.

load more comments (4 replies)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's a few options

Newpipe, uses it's own extractor, also can act as a player for SoundCloud and Peertube, there's also a fork with SponsorBlock: https://newpipe.net/

Libretube, uses the Piped api, generally seen as the one with the best UI: https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube

Clipious, uses the Invidious api: https://github.com/lamarios/clipious

Could also watch videos in a browser from an Invidious or Piped instance I guess

And while I'm at it I'll also mention there's a client option on desktop too, Freetube: https://freetubeapp.io/

load more comments (5 replies)

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 95 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Lol that's like too funny now. Hitting legitimate users with the nagware, so that the only ones having a good experience are the pirates :D Tale as old as the first VHS tape

[–] [email protected] 88 points 11 months ago (29 children)

Let’s be real. Blocking ads isn’t pirating.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The equivalence the person is drawing is something like what Denuvo does on PC. Games that ship with Denuvo suffer significant performance issues but when Denuvo is cracked and the game is put on the high seas, they don't come with Denuvo so the pirates end up having a better experience.

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

I know but there's no other noun that rolls off the tongue quite the same way.

load more comments (27 replies)

[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is a false positive as Googlie tries to find a way to detect and block adblockers on browsers they don't control. install ublock origin and it should solve the issue.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Nope. It happens with ublock origin too.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I believe Ublock has patched this now, you can update to the newest version and reset the extension and it should work.

load more comments (3 replies)

[–] [email protected] 70 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Here's something that I "don't allow" Google:

Letting corporations use MY computer equipment and MY Internet connect to conduct their business. I'll block whatever I want and if Google and YouTube don't like it, they can take their advertising machine, roll it up real tight and cram it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Google can suck it

load more comments (2 replies)

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago

Ah, enshittification at its finest.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We have a family premium plan and I still got this message. Guess I'll cancel YouTube Premium now...

I get most of the content I want via patreon anyway now.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

So, you already pay for an ad-free experience and they still want you to turn off ad-block so they can track you more efficiently. That's vile.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (17 children)

Ublock Origin and SponsorBlock and Enhancer for YouTube will make the YouTube experience SO MUCH better!

Ublock blocks ads, SponsorBlock blocks sponsorship deals that the YouTuber includes (Clash of clans, Norton, etc), and Enhancer lets you play with the settings on a whole other level, including blocking things like end cards.

load more comments (17 replies)

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

You probably have antitracking enabled which can trigger this dumb prompt.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You’re welcome

load more comments (4 replies)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Happened to me, I just blocked the notification objects. Still let me play videos so far. I have firefox + ublock.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I made a user script that will make a button on each video which jump you to piped, that way you can continue to use YT to manage your subscriptions and see your feed, but you never have to watch to video there

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/477267-youtube-add-watch-on-piped-button-to-each-video

load more comments (2 replies)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Got that too (Firefox and ublock origin). So far i can just click the X and continue to watch without ads. Pops up about every third video.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This post has instructions to stop getting the pop up: https://lemmy.world/post/6671823

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Thank you! The cause might actually be "Enhancer for Youtube" in my case. Didn't know it had its own blocker.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

I use a Firefox extension to redirect any YouTube links to open in Ungoogled Chromium, which so far seems to be immune to Google's anti-Adblock campaign.

edit: Extension is called Open In

load more comments (9 replies)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

can we maybe stop using Google/Apple/amazon/m$ etc at some point? they scam us since like ever.

load more comments (4 replies)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter your browser or adblocker, Youtube is cracking down in ALL adblocker. Adblockers are probably going to find a way around it, it's a cat chasing the mouse game.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

uBlock Origin already found a way around it. Update the filter lists and it works again.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

Do you have Firefox's tracker blocking enabled? That can block some advertising related code and as such will also get detected as an adblocker. I've had that be the issue for other websites that block ad blockers in the past before I stopped being willing to ever turn Ublock Origin off.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Just use the piped.video frontend.

load more comments (3 replies)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

“not using an adblocker? report the issue.” 🤷‍♀️

load more comments (7 replies)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Somehow you're using something that Google thinks it's an adblock. Maybe it's a cookie blocker or tracking blocker. Disable all plugins and then try YouTube.

load more comments