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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Basic image analysis like this should have been done ages ago, but libs don't care about the truth just blind propagandizing

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the Tiananmen Square Bicycle Massacre

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was not fabricated, it was exaggerated. Clashes occurred around Beijing and bloodshed was real. Most of them were Maoists clashing with pro market reform government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody is denying bloodshed. There absolutely were violent protests outside the square. The claim in question is that the military gunned down thousands of peaceful protesters in the square, which so far as I know is a claim that's exclusively made by people who were not there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Even that is giving too much credit to the US government narrative.

There literally are all the US mainstream news outlets like CBS News who actually had reporters there at the time: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/

Also from classified US communications with assets on the ground: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html

Funniest thing is that "tank man" photo idiots spam on Reddit all the time. Most people in the west don't realize there is video of it, that the guy didn't get run over. Furthermore they assume he was blocking tanks heading towards the square, infact those tanks were at the time headed away from the square to avoid engaging with armed agitators (people with guns and grenades that had killed police) in a crowded environment. Dude was trying to make them go back.

The deaths that day were people who got gunned down by the "protestors" or the police who were killed when the "protestors" threw grenades (military ordnance) into police vehicles. People that were armed by the CIA as part of a color revolution operation, one that failed because it didn't actually have any support and more importantly because the PLA commander on the scene ordered his units to leave the area rather than responding in kind. The only actual protestors that day were communists having labor protests happening nearby and not the dancing libertine youth acting as the face of the US color revolution operation involving armed groups trying unsuccessfully to provoke the PLA soliders into responding to deadly attacks with deadly force in a crowded urban environment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My personal opinion on the matter isn't that much different from yours (the biggest reason being that the media blitz about the massacre seemed preplanned... It just didn't go according to plan). The problem is that I can't prove anything, so it's all conjecture. So I typically leave that out. It's already a sensitive enough subject.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm bowing out y'all, it was fun. Definitely will be looking into this event and checking some references people pointed me to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That's dope. The one thing I always find frustrating when bickering over politics is people not even caring to read or learn more. I have a lot more respect for my friends when they do, even if all it does is give more nuance to their takes.

Hell if I never decided to read more shit I'd still be a right winger with the rest of the nutcase family.

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