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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Translation: Israel is definitely gonna open a second front with Hezbollah...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

stories like this are always bullshit propaganda to make people think Biden's being the 'reasonable' one in the room, reigning them back, and if they start a war well darn he tried so hard to moderate them.

you don't want a wider war to break out? stop enthusiastically sending them weapons/money while they commit genocide, and put pressure on them to end this onslaught and end the occupation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Alternately it's a signal to Israel that we don't want more of a mess down there.

I mean by your logic if we really disapprove of Israel attacking hezbollah then we should send that message by bombing the idf because anything else is obvious propaganda.

Considering next year is an election, if it was really propaganda it would say that Biden was considering a strike on hezbollah militants confirmed to have taken part in the attack. That would buy him 5 points easy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can't read this. They want me to sign up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can usually remove the paywalls using https://archive.is .

Here's the archive link for this article: https://archive.is/ol745

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How do you direct the article to the archive? Do you take a part of the article's URL and add it to that archive URL?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can just put the entire URL after the archive.is/, e.g. https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/20/us/politics/biden-israel-hezbollah-war.html

Or you can just go to https://archive.is and paste the URL into the search box or the save box and hit the button.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Ah I see. Thank you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On mobile Firefox I use the Web Archives extension to auto open the current webpage in archive.is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Omg, thank you for this one. That's why I love Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

There's also 12ft.io

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

They can "advise" whatever they want, but the only real question is the material support provided or withheld.

Also, NYTimes is paywalled. Please list an alternate source if you're posting their links.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Holy shit, Israel is so afraid of Hezbollah it was considering preemptively widening the war.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

They really needed gymnastics to fit "Hezbollah Strike" into the headline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The effort by top American officials to head off an Israeli offensive on Hezbollah, reported in detail here for the first time, reveals anxieties by the Biden administration over the war planning of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his aides, even as the two governments strive to present a strong united front in public.

Those sensitive talks took place during Mr. Biden’s visit to Tel Aviv on Wednesday and during Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken’s long negotiations in Israel earlier this week.

Mr. Gallant told Mr. Blinken in a small meeting on Monday that he had advocated the previous week to launch a pre-emptive strike on Hezbollah, but was overruled by other officials, said a person familiar with the discussion.

By the time Mr. Blinken arrived in Tel Aviv for his first wartime visit, on Oct. 12, the American officials had become less anxious about such a strike, but were still concerned over potential Israeli overreaction to the ongoing Hezbollah rocket attacks.

The diplomats told the lawmakers this was one reason that Mr. Blinken’s meeting with Mr. Netanyahu and the Israeli war cabinet, which began Monday night, dragged on for seven and a half hours into Tuesday morning.

But Mr. Gallant surprised American diplomats with public remarks in which he praised the presence of U.S. warships in the Mediterranean — which could end up involved in a full-blown Israel-Hezbollah conflict — and said, “This will be a long war; the price will be high.”


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