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One should be at the bottom one at the top. I understand space on the phone is a premium but a second port would make the phone so much more usable. Wired headphones, flash drives, camera modules, speaker modules, keyboards, even connection to a TV, all could be used while charging. It's a shame it's not a thing, USB is extremely versatile port, but you only get one and it's used for charging half of the time. (I am aware dongles exist)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wired headphones... could be used while charging

Sure is a shame nobody ever came up with a way to do that before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The person who decided a headphone jack is superfluous should be found, tarred, feathered, and left naked and alone deep in the alaskan wilderness covered in pigs blood for the wildlife to enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I hate how we're stuck in a limbo between headphones jacks and usb-c. Like the change was bad to begin with, but if you're going to switch to usb-c, then do it fully.

USB-C for everything honestly would have been good if they had. But we're stuck in a limbo

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Soon you're gonna feel lucky that your phone has even ONE port.

Give it 5 years and Apple will have removed their lightning and/or USB port and gone wireless on everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple is going to be compelled to offer USB-C as a wired charging connection in Europe if it offers a wired charging option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Which means bye bye charging port

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still keep a drawing of my ideal phone from years ago and I also has two ports like you mention. I totally agree!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

ASUS ROG Phones have them. Also with a headphone jack I think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wireless USB never took off. Essentials company was promisimg with PH1, it had wireless USB port. only released two wireless USB compatible devices for it though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You know what? As long as the second port isn't gimped in any way (can do video out + all the typical USB things), then I might forgive them for taking away the headphone jack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. I never understood why space should be at premium. A phone does not need to be as thin as possible. 1Β½-2cm thickness is reasonable in my eyes, and would allow so much more ports and/or buttons. I would have use for 2-3 extra buttons.
  2. The biggest pro of two opposing ports: you could always charge your device regardless of orientation. With just a port on the bottom charging while scrolling in the bed is often uncomfortable
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The biggest pro of two opposing ports: you could always charge your device regardless of orientation. With just a port on the bottom charging while scrolling in the bed is often uncomfortable

This is my biggest problem with my switch! I have to awkwardly hold it when I'm trying to ay laying on the couch or in bed. I hear the Steam Deck has a port on top for charging so it's already begun!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And most people add a bulky case anyway. Just integrate that shit into the phone!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is what life is when all viable phones are made by two giant tech companies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird headphones don't use ucb-c, there is already a standard for headphones and it's the 3.5mm audio jack.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a) I have a USB-c headset at work

b) the 3.5mm headphone jack can't be used to transfer data (at a good rate)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure what exactly you mean by headset. But headphones and IEMs will use a 3.5mm or 1/4" jack. My sennheisers use it, my beyerdynamics use it, my audio Technicas use it. Even my KZ IEMs and moondrop IEMs use it. This is a universal standard for a reason.

And not sure what the data rate has to do with anything. It's an audio connector, it's not used to transfer data, it's used to move the drivers in a set of headphones. As usb-c doesn't output line level audio, any headset you have that uses it needs its own DAC and amp which is problematic for e-waste reasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Headset, as in headphones with a microphone. I use it for MS Teams meetings and a bit of music and it works fine.

The point OP was trying to make is that you can use USB-c for other things besides listening to music.

Since you seem to be an audiophile with a list of fancy headphones (don't ask me, my Cardo combined with earplugs is fine for the level of listening I want to do) then wouldn't an offboard DAC / amp that you could keep far longer than a phone, and isn't restricted by size constraints going to be better than a built-in version?

Also, if you're worried about e-waste maybe you shouldn't buy so many headphones. My partner's Sennheisers have lasted 20 years so far.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree. If we're going to lose the headphone port in favour of connecting to a universal connection (either directly or via an adaptor) then it's time we have two of them. As for positioning I gather that there are lots of handheld PC's with the one on top and one on bottom configuration and that it's generally accepted to be the best way (and my on top 3.5mm and on bottom USB-c seems to work pretty well) so I think you're right but it would be nice to see manufacturers try out a few different configurations to see in practise what people prefer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think on a phone it would make sense for bottom and side, which is the top of a handheld PC. That way you could have the cord sticking out whatever direction was handy for you by turning your phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Asus ROG does this

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can USB hubs even allow the phone to be charged and simultaneously control things through the same port? I know I tried that back in the USB2 days and found it infuriatingly false, since had set up a wired USB mouse and game controller to my tablet for portable shooters. One particular hazard is I've found that combining bluetooth headphones and game controllers can result in unplayably-bad latency on Android, so wired options would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think yes. USB-C docks are the proof.