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[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

โ€œWe note that there are contrary requirements on drivers in that they must respect the minimum [sic] time, they are attempting to create manageable gaps to cars in front, yet they are also required to avoid unnecessarily stopping at the pit exit or driving unnecessarily slowly. It was also particularly noted that the race director accepted that these contrary requirements exist.โ€

This is such a load of bullshit. Respecting the maximum lap time is a requirement set by the director's race notes. Avoiding stopping and/or driving unnecessarily slowly at the pit exit is a requirement set by the rulebook. Creating a manageable gap to cars in front is NOT a requirement. It is a competitive advantage. And as such, drivers and teams are free to pursue an advantage as long as they are within the requirements. There aren't contrary requirements. You either set a lap earlier than everybody else when the track is not in optimal conditions, or you wait till the last moment and take the risk of traffic.

If I were Leclerc or Hamilton, I would use this ruling to challenge last week's DSQ. After all, there are two contrary requirements if we follow the stewards' logic: the requirement of the wear of the planck and the requirement of running low to maximize ground effect.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The Blue Flag/Three marshall post rule is set in a similar manner.

This isn't new, and suggesting that it has any bearing on the last race is just wrong.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The requirement for running low isn't a rule tho, is it? Teams want to run as low as they can for the ground effect to be effective, but nothing's forcing them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Read the comment again.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Same with creating manageable gaps to cars in front. That's their point.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Let's hope they'll get some explicit rules soon.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a shit show we get it. Take a beat and sort it out for the next race.

Personally, I would suggest a minimum speed limit in the pit lane.

Maybe even on track the stupid minimum time should be abolished and replaced with a minimum speed limit. Perhaps a faster minimum on the main straights. Drivers know where they stand with a speed restriction. Trying to stick to a time for a dynamically changing track in terms of other cars is far too hard.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

They can manage a target delta for VSC so they should be able to do the same for their out lap too, just use the same system and allow the team to change the deltas post quali. Idea is to beat the main time set for quali rather than be slower than the min time set for race.

I can't even remember the last time a driver got done for VSC time infringements other than missing the activation point, which is a non issue when it would be the second safety car line and thus fixed in advance.

Pit lane nin speed limit I like the idea, should apply in race as well to prevent fucking around when double stacking.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

That is dumb as hell but ok