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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Tldr it's used to make initial GPS fix faster by getting satellite positioning information.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not a fan of how they say "we didn't say it's a backdoor," but have "secretly share" in the URL and article title.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A backdoor would imply some sort of external control I'd think, a much broader potential for harm.

Being able to command a device to send you info or perform tasks is different than the device sending info of its own accord.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A backdoor would imply some sort of external control I'd think...

Yes, technically a backdoor listens: https://csrc.nist.gov/glossary/term/backdoor

Being able to command a device to send you info or perform tasks is different than the device sending info of its own accord.

In this context, where it's implied to send without the owner's knowledge (ignoring the fact it's documented), not really. The article screams "gotcha!" when in reality it didn't, so they're trying to backtrack and downplay their initial response. But I do appreciate their update, it's just got a PR spin to it.

Edit: if the article was initially written as more of a "did you know" and/or expanding on existing documentation, wouldn't be an issue. It's the "it's secretly stealing" that implies malice which is part of the definition of malware... that'shares a category with backdoor. So splitting hairs in the name of PR.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

there is an important difference between sending data and accepting remote control

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

That's a good read, especially the additional context at the bottom of the article.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

After a quick search: Izatcloud is qualcomm extended satellite positioning, which may be a different version of GPS. But not entirely sure, here is a privacy related article about it. https://restoreprivacy.com/qualcomm-denies-unlawful-user-location-data-collection-on-phones/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@AlbinJose1001 base host appears to be some location provider from Qualcomm? http://izatcloud.net/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I don't know. My xiaomi device is making crazy amount of connections to.... Xiaomi.net, Xiaomi.com, Miui.com, idmb-app-chat-global-xiaomi10-407281533.ap-south-1.elb.amazonaws.com And now... xtrapath1.izatcloud.net

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

As others have said, manufacturer telemetry. Just the usual built-in spyware that people are fine with for some reason... Everyone does it, they're just bad at hiding it in this case.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As mentioned, this is a Qualcomm thing. Not exactly spyware, but probably not necessary either.

https://www.qualcomm.com/site/privacy/services

Qualcomm Location Service (formerly “IZat Location Services” or “IZat”) is technology offered by Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. in the U.S., QT Technologies Ireland Limited in countries within the European Economic Area, and Qualcomm CDMA Technologies (Korea) YH in the Republic of Korea (a.k.a. South Korea). Qualcomm Location Service may enable your device to determine its location more quickly and accurately – even when your device is unable to get a strong GPS signal.

Something like the UAD could disable it, or you could use Tracker Control to block it, or straight up use adb to disable it... But, it will run even if disabled.

The package is com.qualcomm.location so,

adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.qualcomm.location

will disable it, but it will always come back...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Removing it can cause a bootloop in some cases, likely something in the boot process is looking for it and reinstalling that app if missing. Google's play services recently started doing that with permissions that are revoked with root

Should be removable on a non-stock ROM though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is *.xtracloud.net related? I found it in my logs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Yes it absolutely is. It’s also Qualcomms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yes, it's the newer version of the two. OP has an older device

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, It's izatcloud.net related.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I asked very similar question here.

https://lemmy.world/post/7424307

The address is diffrent because you have older phone.