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Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Political? For everyone outside of America that's just common sense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Canada it’s starting to become “political” since our morons are egged on by the morons down south.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so exhausting, they treat it like a sport, it's not about making anyone's lives better it's all just about their team winning

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s people creating their own victories because they’re lacking their own.

Love your username, btw!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Politics used to be something people engaged in. Now politics is the core to a lot of people's identities, which means disagreement or debate is perceived as a personal attack and people will embrace a tremendous amount of cognitive dissonance to avoid being wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hello I'm a trans person from the UK here to tell you this is sadly not the case at all.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can relate to the "how the fuck is being a concerned human being extreme/poltical?" energy in the post hard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hate is mainstream politics now, sadly. So yes, not hating is political as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's what "being political" means. Otherwise you'd be apathetic, cynical and not concerned about anything.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linus gives exactly zero fucks about saying exactly what's on his mind. And it's almost always massively based. He's always been great about that, we don't deserve such a great mind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Remember the time with the anti vaxxer, man was firing with all cylinders

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Seriously, we are super blessed to have him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

FOSS is an active political statement!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Was just coming here to say that. The entire Ethos of Open Source is basically the people owning the digital means of production. So some people really not grasp that?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This fact eludes some folks.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Woman right to choose, fair enough. Regulated guns, absolutely. The less guns the better. Gay people stuff, I couldn't care less. Check.

The man said it as it should be said.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Linus has always been political and principled, I mean he chose the GPL for a reason! Glad to see him state all of this outright though, it only makes me respect him more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One great thing about about software is you don't have to agree with or care about what the creators thoughts and beliefs are, software is at the end of the day just software.

Doesn't get any less political than that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I create software by myself and disagree. First it's very political where and for whom I choose to develop software. Second, software is always made for a purpose and the purpose can be indeed (and is) very often linked to political or social cause. E.g. a software which only purpose is to harm people, say for controlling mass destruction weapons is in my point of view a very political software

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

software is always made for a purpose and the purpose can be indeed (and is) very often linked to political or social cause

Its not though, typically software exists to serve a basic function at its core, and it could be used or contributed to by anyone for any number of things.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One great thing about about software is you don't have to agree with or care about what the creators thoughts and beliefs are, software is at the end of the day just software.

It really isn't though - no-one dared touch ReiserFS after the creator became a wife-murderer even though it, supposedly at the time, it was quite the piece of advanced code.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Was referring more to people trying to politicize software and push them into political movements they're unrelated to. Open software is at is core free and as such anyone with any political leaning could use it or contribute to it and no one would know, and no one should care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Now, what one considers free is political. You cannot decouple reality from politics, and the free software movement is just one very specific example how political this really is. It's also these communities that generate politival movements that you may see as unrelated to the pieces of software in question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hard fisagree. Linux isn't political. Everyone has an opinion, it's obvious Linus would too. But I am pretty happy that his opinion is one I personally agree with. Linux can be uaed by anyone though, and nothing stops far right activists (terrorists) from making a distro, which would still be Linux. There's a heavily religious distro too, but that doesn't make Linux as a whole religious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does that really make it totally apolitical though?. Like obviously it's not inherently attached to a wide reaching political ideology, but it still is political in the same way that any free software is kind of political.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Personally I disagree but that's ok, we can't all see it the same way :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Incredibly sensible take on all accounts in my opinion! I share all of the same opinions, though I lack the platform to be listened too haha.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It makes me very happy to hear Linus say this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Linus delivering the well-deserved beatdown as always.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Couldn't agree more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Based but don't make Linux political

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Holy fuck, I love that guy even more now. I didn't know that was possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Personal is political.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I half agree with his gun regulation stance. While ideally there would be more caution given to who owns guns that is unfortunately not the world americans have been living in the last 80 years or so. The fascists have guns, lots of them, and I'm not giving mine up while they have them.

Everything else he said is 100% based.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, yeah, fascists having guns is a "randomly giving guns to any moron with a pulse" problem.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linus is just such a treat. Love the guy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When the only thing that continues to work on you ad-filled web site is the captcha, I’m not interested in supporting your journalism any more.

Protip: You can crash self-driving cars by purposefully misclicking during Captcha checks when they ask you to identify what is a bicycle, a car, a pedestrian, etc. Keep misclicking, your are poisoning the AI with each misclick. Just stay safe on the sidewalk.

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