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[–] [email protected] 110 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imagine how much better space x and Tesla would run without this idiot.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

They'd probably manage to stop mangling people for one

[–] [email protected] 72 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Andrew Tate has pledged to cover $100 million of revenue each month once he finds his checkbook, which he thinks he might have left at the hotel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

On a serious note, he said he would put 1mil/month into twitter for a year. The Romanian authorities put his net worth at around 10 mil, so in a literal sense he doesnt have it.

Just noise and bluster from grifters using other grifters to grift.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Tate Accounting Inc. probably is counting the revenue generated from his would be future content towards that $1M/mo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The officers took it when he checked into jail

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

finds support from conservatives

On Monday, two more advertisers — Fox Sports and Ubisoft — said they were pausing ad campaigns

hmmmmm

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They will be back in a jiffy. If you’re looking for morals, Fox ain’t the place you’d find them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh I’m sure, but it’s still an interesting, or at least funny, temporary data point that they decided to nope out right now instead of pledging to double their buys or something.

edit: if nothing else, Musk must be steamed by it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So ... it's complicated.

Fox Sports was initially a division of 21st Century Fox - which changed to Fox Corporation after The Walt Disney Company bought a bunch of 21st stuff in 2019, including Fox Sports. Disney then sold Fox Sports Network to Sinclair Broadcast Group, who then rebranded Fox Sports into Bally Sports Regional Networks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Disney only purchased and then sold the Fox Sports regional networks to Sinclair. Fox Sports still exists as the division of Fox Corporation still under Murdoch family control, and manages sports coverage on the Fox network, the cable sports channels FS1 and FS2, and Fox Sports Radio.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Even more complicated than I thought, then.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Birds of a shit feather fly together

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Lahey approved.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You spelled “fascists and racists” wrong.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's what American conservatives are these days. But yeah, the media pretending that everything is normal is very much part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, politics have devolved into our team vs their team.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, "our team" doesn't post memes praising Hitler, so I feel like we may be winning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It shouldn’t be about teams or winning. The real losers are the people, because we are divided and our government is broken. Democracy is about compromise and working together. Right now, we are repeating history yet again with the rich extracting wealth from the common people for their own advantage. We are blinded by culture war politics meant to distract everyone from what’s really happening.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

It's a tragedy. It shouldn't be this way at all. I never envisioned myself seeing politics as a team sport. But with how Republicans are now, there's really no other choice. When one side defends antisemitism and bigotry, not treating politics as a team support to beat "their team" is outright immoral.

Like you said, it's distracting from the real issues. I'd much rather we discuss government economic policies and taxes and budgets, but fascists automatically take priority. It's very fortunate for the billionaires propping up Republicans. They've lit the house on fire and we can't ignore it.

But, we can sure remember who they are and what they've done. I'm confident and hopeful that we'll be able to beat back this wave of fascism with how many people are pissed off about abortion. And when that's done, we deliver the billionaires their just desserts through wealth taxes and closing loopholes. I want to see Musk whine that 100% of his discretionary income is going to the government.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Musk displays the emotional intelligence of an 8 year old boy.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

I think you are underestimating what some 8 yos are capable of. Of course, this was a girl, but many have a sense of well developed empathy at that age.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you think it's too late for him to run for president?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Fortunately, current USA rules prohibit it.

He was born in South Africa.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just the system, keeping another African American down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

At least Musk can apply for Reparations.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

at least there’s that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Trump with Musk as VP. ☠️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Might be the last time his father loved him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

And unfortunately, we have a system that allows someone like this to amass that much wealth (and power).

And the sheer amount of idiots that apply Worthington's Law to people like Elon and the orange blob is truly staggering. I cannot tell you how many times I've been in conversations where someone shakes their head at what an idiot Elon is and someone bats their eyes and says some form of, "yeah, but he has more money than you".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm Jewish. Please don't let Republicans win. I'm starting to fear for my life. And my daughter's life, more importantly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What you don't want to return to your homeland and start the apocalypse like all these Christian nut jobs want? You must be anti-Semitic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Most Jews just want their homeland to be allowed to exist without controversy or being attacked by its neighbors. Most of them also want the Prime Minister jailed which is a related/unrelated.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

In trouble for racist rants? Who else could one turn to then conservatives? I mean, they’re the experts on the subject.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

NBC is laying down the gauntlet with this:

On Monday, two more advertisers — Fox Sports and Ubisoft — said they were pausing ad campaigns and spending on the platform in response to questions from NBC News about their ads’ running next to antisemitic content and on pages belonging to antisemitic influencers.

...

On Sunday, NBC News found that hashtags associated with antisemitic conspiracy theories were still viewable and had ads running on them. NBC News viewed ads for Ubisoft’s Assassin’s Creed running on numerous antisemitic accounts, including one called “Jewish Watchdog,” which posted antisemitic memes.

Precisely what Musk is purportedly suing Media Matters for. They're challenging him to pick on one of the big boys.

And they deserve some praise for that. Good on them.

More popcorn, please.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Media matters must be fucking giddy. Can you imagine just taking this NBC report to the Twitter lawyers and asking them how they plan to counter it in court?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Precisely what Musk is purportedly suing Media Matters for.

Kind of, media matters reported on twitter showing ads next to extremist and offensive content, to which the big moron cried was not realistic case and that ads weren't normally shown next to content like that.

“Media Matters knowingly and maliciously manufactured side-by-side images depicting advertisers’ posts on X Corp.’s social media platform beside Neo-Nazi and white-nationalist fringe content and then portrayed these manufactured images as if they were what typical X users experience on the platform,” the complaint filed in the US District Court for the Northern District of Texas said. “Media Matters designed both these images and its resulting media strategy to drive advertisers from the platform and destroy X Corp.”

With that clarification aside, this is huge for MM, big media reproducing their claims so what, is phony stark gonna add NBC to the suit?

They’re challenging him to pick on one of the big boys.

popcorn indeed

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Notice how before, it was conservatives being anti-semitic, now that the Israel/Hamas conflict is on, right wing people took no time at all to call people supporting Palestinian civilians anti-semitic? Amazing mental gymnastics for all of the class traitors.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was interested to see how they’d swing on this one. They hate Jews, but they also hate Muslims. I’m really surprised they fell on the same side of the fence as the hated Biden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah same. Where mtg at?

WHY ISN'T BIBI ACTIVATING THE JEW SPACE LASERS!??!?!?!??!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Nice try haters! They already raked their yards!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Just goes to show they always unite under the collective messaging and narratives. They are not serious people, they are just looking for their next outrage to validate hating someone or something.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Wow a $19b company just got $1.2m in ad spending? Seems like they’re pumping water out of a ship with a broken hull.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

No suprise. Conservatives are the purveyors of hate speech, lies, misinformation, and disinformation. When they get banned for breaking a social media platform's rules against those things, they cry censorship. Elon doesn't ban them; he boosts them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

He supports them so they will do the same in return.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In the past six days, Musk has launched a lawsuit against a progressive watchdog organization, engaged with long-debunked conspiracy theories about a pizza shop and boasted about a graveyard of his enemies.

The advertiser pullout also followed Musk’s endorsement of an antisemitic conspiracy theory posted on X, which suggested that Jewish people were stoking the replacement of white people via group political action — an antisemitic conspiracy theory known as the “great replacement” that was linked to shootings at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh and a Tops grocery store in Buffalo, New York.

Musk has denied being antisemitic, and he said Friday he was designating some pro-Palestinian slogans, including “from the river to the sea,” as falling within the platform’s rules against calling for genocide.

On Monday and Tuesday, Musk amplified the long-debunked Pizzagate conspiracy theory when he responded to four posts and threads referring to the misinformation that led to a shooting incident at a Washington, D.C., pizza shop in 2016.

Musk’s most vocal supporters in recent days have come not from the tech industry but from right-wing politics — in particular, the attorneys general of Texas and Missouri, former Trump White House official Stephen Miller and a loose group of conservative pundits who have pledged to spend more money on X advertising.

Other conservative personalities made similar promises, including podcasters Tim Pool and Benny Johnson and Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes, bringing the total pledges to more than $800,000.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Hm, did he have much support from any non-cons before?