School shooting in Europe: A tragedy
School shooting in America: A Tuesday
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I was in Auckland, NZ when there was an active shooter in late July and the whole city was on alert. I was expecting an American style mass shooting based on the number of sirens I heard outside. When I found out it was a disgruntled employee who shot 2 coworkers I thought "Oh, that's just a Tuesday in America"
Yeah, except the Czech Republic will probably take meaningful steps to ensure it doesn't happen again
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Coincidentally, it was in the only EU country I know of that has a right to bear arms in their constitution.
What possible correlation could there be? If only we could comprehend this complex issue.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/school-shootings-by-country
One shooting in a country is not proof that the right to bear arms is a public danger. As one might note from the equally isolated incidents in the countries without the right.
288 school shootings in a country that is hardly alone in that right is instead proof of a cultural disease.
What was that thing with "Under no pretext" I'm sure that it's not that important
Nah this is a bad take.
Gun law is complicated, they can definitely be used to enhance the violence someone with ill intent can do but social conflicts generally drive it. I mean I'm aussie, we have a fair bit of gun control but still basically anyone who isn't a drongo can get one (although atm I'm in appeals because apparently ADHD precludes me lmao, yep defs don't want shooters getting mental health treatment! Should encourage them to hide it!). We actually have quite a few, almost all bolt/lever action rifles but. Handguns have a lot of commitment and training required which is reasonable since they're for target shooting and people murdering.
We have social issues involving violence, mostly femicide DV stuff, we don't really have the shooters. We don't get the stuff like acid attacks or stabbings that you get over in like the UK or whatever. Someone can do a shitload of harm with lots of thing, a slow firing rifle isn't substantially more dangerous than a car, improv bomb, or crude chemical weapon.
There is no justification for having easy access to guns in the public. If citizens feel so unsafe in their homes that they think it's necessary, then there is a structural problem
Sorry, how does this follow? Most countries allow access to firearms. while we can question the validity of the concept of a country; this presumably communicates that most people don't feel it's absurd to have access to firearms.
They are just machines, some are designed as human killers and I would agree that access to those is generally bad. Some are for target practice, some are for killing non humans which I find abhorrent but understand is part of the world for now, some are pure silly fun in the same way fast motorcycles are.
When talking about firearms you need to talk about a certain category because banning them all is as silly as banning drugs or banning stump remover because it's trivial to make a crude incendiary from it.
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There was a mass shooting at Uni Heidelberg last year
And he bought his guns in a country where they can be purchased freely.
Oh wow!
Now we have a total of 40 school shootings in Europe ... since 1900.
The States do that in like what, two weeks?
USA! USA! USA!
No, but definitely in less than one year.
I love how the Wikipedia article only lists the most horrific school shootings in the US, since it is too much work to list all of them.
I had to actually read an article to make sure it wasn't Prague, Wisconsin or some nonsense.
Prague WI definitely doesn't have a university. If I remember right Prague WI doesn't even have a gas station.
His online diary or manifesto whatever was already posted on 4chan, just on like Dec. 10 he was debating if he wanted to be a serial killer that kills one at a time or mass shooter. Long story short, he was going to do some fucked up shit no matter what.
"Wait a minute,
They have guns in other countries?"
Guns aren't banned in any EU countries I know of. That's a strawman by American gun control opponents.
In fact, most of Europe has found a good balance of regulations regarding firearms. Where I live (Germany), getting a gun license is about as difficult and costly as getting a drivers license.
And the Czech Republic even has a right to own guns in the constitution.
is about as difficult and costly as getting a drivers license.
Note that German driver's licenses are notoriously difficult to get by the standards of most other countries, especially the US.
OK, but almost everyone is able to get it and no one would claim cars are banned in Germany.
That's news to me.
Italy? France?
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