this post was submitted on 29 Dec 2023
2 points (100.0% liked)

Linux

47237 readers
3343 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
top 8 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Quite literally, the only problem or "stuff broken because or Wayland" is some old ass apps or lazy companies that won't update their electron version. Looking at you discord, screen sharing COULD WORK if you managed your stuff

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

KDE gui scaling problems too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Kinda. The problem was fixed in Qt6 and current KDE is Qt5. It'll be fixed once Plasma 6 releases in February.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Wayland != X11

Not 100% feature compatible != broken.

My opinion and also a TL;DR: of the article.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I really don't like nate's take here. IMO it's really not that good, Wayland is still outright lacking features, even when using the craptastic xdg portals junk

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

X11 has it's own issues (and there are a lot of them, including security)

What features exactly?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I didnt even remotely imply that x11 doesn't have issues, so im not sure why that was brought up. The goal is to make wayland an acceptable and universal replacement, Everyone knows x11 is dying but wayland isnt ready to replace it yet

Things like window embedding, the wayland way is for each app to have it's own embedded compositor. Wayland has no support for things like overlays/always on top (Useful for OSKs PR has been made but like all wayland things, we might not get it for another couple years, or perhaps never), currently missing support for reading other window states (PR made for this as well, but again, who knows how long it will take), Still no support for window positioning (again PR made), Emulated input events (libei is not universally supported) And these are just the ones off the top of my head, There were others but I cant think of them ATM

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

“not everything is fully ported yet”

“There will probably be an awkward period before all of these pieces are in place for all of the people.”

I think these are the two key takeaways – Wayland is still in development and the bandwagoning are the early adopters – most of us will switch when our distros switch (and will probably be none the wiser)

the problems (and the reason we’re suffering through sensationalist stuff like “Wayland breaks everything!”) is the fanboy push to switch before it’s ready – not everybody lives on the bleeding edge (just like not everyone runs Arch) and the “switch now or be left behind” attitude does more harm than good (far more likely to alienate than convert) …