Atyno

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You'd think that, but humans can be weird with what actually causes introspection.

The hospital thing they just took the official line for. They actually mocked Aaron, or were actually grateful he took his own life thinking he was a disturbed individual.

Edit: If you want to understand the logic: they're willing to turn a blind eye if they can "both sides" incidents so they can simply keep their position of "Israel has a right to defend itself, regardless if they're not saints about it".

The humanitarian aid story is getting them because Bibi won't even let them do that! Hence why I mentioned the story sharing, since they know Bibi had made it clear he wants to starve Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

I feel like it was that gunning down incident with the humanitarian aid that ultimately tipped the scales.

I know I've been going on defense for Israel a lot recently, but I am kinda playing messenger boy as a neutral for being both here and some pro-Israel groups. The Michigan vote didn't really phase them, that incident did. Seen them even sharing more info about how ridiculously strict Bibi is with aid in general.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Hell, people don't want to admit it but he can end up losing Michigan too for taking up an anti-Israel stand. There's very clearly an "anti-protest" vote that kept uncommitted at only 10% of the vote despite getting 100k of them. About 400k voters that are at risk if Biden changes course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

But you did say 2008, you said it was a "similar" result. I'm not going to contest the anomalous nature, but the result itself is not similar at all!

My point is that I don't agree, the numbers are only consistent for 2016/2020 (because turns out most people won't waste time with an uncommitted vote when there's a viable opposition candidate: Bernie). 2012 is a deviation and in the same way this primary did. The only thing different is the absolute number of votes altogether (in a state that has had insignificant population growth mind).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

You can't honestly tell me 39% is closer to 13% than 10%. 3% is not significant, it's an error margin on a poll.

The significant part is the absolute numbers, but that comes with caveat that the Biden vote was 3x Obama's in 2012 (and is 80% of the vote, which is a little less because of unviable candidates so unfortunately there's a little muddying).

Honestly, the whole thing is kinda proving to me the pro-palestine movement still isn't really big in the US despite the optics. Or, at the very least, there's still a large pro-Israel contingent that dwarfs them. And probably why Biden's been ignoring them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

The percentage is more important, and it's basically the same size as 2012 which is the appropriate comparison (2016 and 2020 had other, viable candidates to vote for).

Numbers are higher... But that's the issue isn't it? Seems to me an even larger portion of voters came out to "anti-protest" the protest voters too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Pretty weak showing for the uncommitted campaign. Marginally better performance so far than in 2012, making it indistinguishable from generic discontent even though it was supposed to be over a specific issue.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

This sounds like a pretty dead bill, just barely making it over the finish line (To what's basically a party line vote).

I don't know what change they could make to peel off even a single Dem, much less overcome the governor's veto.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, it helps that's what my initial prep was: migrating over to discord for niches. It doesn't hit all the marks you mentioned, but it's good enough for me (for now, it's probably gonna have its true enshittening moment too but it's still usable for me at least).

Making the final move here was for the news aggregation with some community discovery, and so far it feels like it's adequate here too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I stayed awhile longer, but prepped for the worse that came yesterday.

Honestly, I think it did impact the content objectively for the worse. Now that I'm fully moved into Lemmy I'm recognizing that a bunch of subreddits basically declined into irrelevance after the blackout (and I'm only remembering them as I try to recreate my subscription list here).

And it kinda affected the vibe of the front page. As of now, I'd describe current reddit as very meta-naval gazing. So many of the posts are basically rival subreddits going "nuh-uh" and "yuh-huh" to each other. There may also be a new algo in use that's basically encouraging fights between subreddits?

Edit: I should clarify, I think there's objectively less actual content with now the literal same content being posted multiple times but with different takes on it.