DarkroomDoc

This is stupid. Noting that there is a bell curve of some innate talent we label intelligence is like noting there’s a bell curve on a person’s height.

Not to be pedantic, but an impressive pharmaceutical industry is not the same as leading cancer research. Still impressive. Not the same. Again, I get your point, but no need to exaggerate realities.

While I get the point you’re trying to make, it’s just incredibly wrong about cuba. Carry on for the rest.

Source: I do lots of cancer related research.

Fucking tankies in this thread.

It’s an interesting article, but it’s not an exhaustive look at the situation. Look buddy- the article is from the point of an American, and proscribes American actions that should be taken. While that is interesting, it doesn’t touch nearly at all on what the current parties should do (vis a vis Hamas and Israel) and it doesn’t apply ANY scrutiny to Hamas or suggest any actions they should take.

It’s not that it’s not an insightful piece, but it’s POV is limited, and can’t be applied generally.

I’m not justifying either- I’m just saying that Hamas is the responsible party

Fundamentally it comes down to who is more at fault for the death of a human shield, the one who is using the human shield or the one who is attacking.

Clearly Hamas is more at fault. If you want peace tell Hamas to surrender and return the hostages.

It’s naive to say that kindness is going to stop violence from a group who in their founding charter call for the death of the opposing group. Hanas isn’t a good faith group and no amount of kindness will change that.

Any solution that will be durable requires that Hanna’s is not a part of it.

A loss for words is still a loss.

It’s a shame, really. Not that the herd here will care- but I have always been a liberal. For 20 years I’ve voted democratic and pushed for understanding. But things are changing- have changed. We’ve polarized to the point of absurdism, arguing that one atrocity is ok and the other is not solely on the parties involved. We’ve bathed so much in the incestuous pond of cable media and internet misinformation that anything that isn’t exactly “party line” is dismissed and derided.

Currently, the line is perceived power is ultimate evil- that everyone with it is by definition a victimizer everyone without is by definition a victim. In this paradigm, the Jews, ironically, are the colonialists and can do no good, while Hamas can do no wrong. Reality is rarely so black and white.

This is no justification of Netanyahu administration. But equivocating here is wrong. Hamas started the war with capturing, raping, and murdering innocents, and wants to avoid repercussions by hiding behind their own civilians. We should be able to denounce evil where it lies- with those who caused the war. Want to end the war? Call for Hamas to surrender.

Don’t be an ass. Your claim was I was spreading misinformation because hamas never said that 500 people died, and was a product of western media. This isn’t what your article argues, rather that dead might have been mistranslated from injured. The core thrust of my argument remains the same- data supplied by Hamas is suspect, at best.

Again, if you’re able, explain your argument.

You can’t articulate your argument. That’s on you, bud.

Your response is nothing but theatrics and exaggeration. The US worse than North Korea, where no free will or choice exists? Or how about china, with ongoing Uyghur concentration camps? Or nazi Germany and the holocaust?

This is not to say the US is blameless- it’s to say that there are degrees of evil- and founding your organization on the death of someone else puts you at bottom of the barrel, by default.