ElectroVagrant

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Little feedback on the UI from taking a peek at this.

When I went into settings and adjusted post display style from card to anything else, it wasn't clear to me that this wouldn't apply to the new For You feed, which left me confused and less inclined to use it. I still gave it a try to make sure I wasn't missing anything and to see how much the feed seemed to change with some light interaction, but I think you'd need to use it more than I did to see an effect.

Problem being: display settings not applying to the For You feed means I'm not going to use it much with the default card view.

Second part is that there was some comment display lag as I looked through posts, so if I looked at a post about cats with cat-related comments, those comments would linger and appear for a moment under a different post about possums. It's just long enough to be noticeable, so thought it worth mentioning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Seeing as this thread is still active, instead of continuing to reply to people throughout, gonna go ahead and put this out here.

If you're not finding an active community for something (safe for work, that is) or any community whatsoever for your interest, you're welcome to post about the topics that interest you in [email protected] till you find enough likeminded people to get a separate community going. This was always allowed tbh, but I've tried to make it more explicit and clear that it's cool.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

You're welcome to post about papers and discuss them over in [email protected] to try to get this going for more specific communities!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Given the absence of specific communities (or active ones so far), if people would like they could start these conversations over in [email protected].

I recognize it's not the same, particularly for getting to those deep dive points you mention with ATLA, but gotta start somewhere, right?

Also I can easily give this go-ahead being one of the mods there. Up to now I've hesitated popping into threads like this and pointing people there because I'm not a fan of consolidation, but it's become apparent some simple meeting area may help to get more niche communities spun off and going.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Jungle is a plant metropolis

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

when you get cc'd on an email and wait till the right moment to send the CharCoal image you've had waiting for this moment

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Original article: https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-whats-happening-gaza-is-not-genocide-2024-05-20/

It's pretty clear to me Biden's trying to thread the needle on this in a gruesome way. The argument seems to follow the form of: civilian deaths are collateral damage, this is unfortunate but this is war and they are not purposely being targeted and so this is not genocide.

However that almost willfully ignores the denial and blocking of aid to the same affected civilians, which is a deliberate action that despite the cover story being to prevent it reaching Hamas, falls entirely flat as regardless, it results in direct suffering and death of the civilians. I say almost because some small efforts have been made to push back against the denial of aid, but as is evident to anyone monitoring the situation, these efforts are all far too small to address the widespread suffering and death of the Gazan people.

This whole semantics game around genocide is simply disgusting. You know those in government know exactly what people mean when they're calling it that, they want an end to the killing and an end to the deaths of civilians, whether from military strikes or denial of aid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Once I thought and did the thing then realized the thought was the thing to do and then it kept going and going and...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

bummer, an ent using comms tech despite the classic trait of'em being against exploitative civilization didn't click as much as I thought it might

more fun imagery for me! In my head it's a clear visual of a cross between solar and cyberpunk. Then again, I don't remember ents in Shadowrun, but people play the TTRPG a little fast and loose like D&D, so I stand by my OP thought

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

oh, uh, for those unfamiliar: Shadowrun's a tabletop RPG as well as a computer RPG with a cyberpunk setting but with fantasy creatures and magic mixed together

 

Comm-Ents running aerials in their uppermost branches of their head but nobody can tell 'cause they've made'em blend in. Paranoia's even harder to pin down when the "trees" can literally be listenin'.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

At a glance this sounds even more intrusive than it's been with Win10 (and maybe 11?), and sadly it's no surprise as even without AI junk, I think the defaults with Win10 (and maybe 11) are to track your PC use to try to provide some "convenience" features, e.g. display of recently used programs/accessed files when you go to open a new desktop (Win key + Tab).

If they would be more transparent about this and indicate whether and how much of that info, "anonymized/depersonalized" or not, is being taken by them, I think people would still be understandably annoyed but more understanding; at least with an easy opt out or better still, the default being that you must opt in for any of it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

I don't know the specifics of what may have happened with Lemmy.film, so we'll have to see if someone else may know.

As to what happens to posts to "their" communities, my rough understanding is that with the host server gone, federation either doesn't occur or maybe attempts to reach the host but simply stops after some number of attempts. Upon failure I think it simply collects the posts on your home server/instance's copy of the community.

Not sure what would happen if a new instance was spun up of Lemmy.film either from a backup or in general, but I'd imagine there's some settings/adjustments that may be calibrated to prevent it getting a backlog of posts dumped on it causing it to get bogged down or crash.

As to questions specifically about the Lemmy software, you may try [email protected] or [email protected], think either one would be okay for this.

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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I dunno how many here have given it a try yet, or simply don't ever intend to but are nevertheless a little curious, so I'm putting down some notes here.

Very basics:

  1. It's very much a Twitter clone on the surface.
  2. It may depend on your setup, but in my experience I did not have to provide a phone number to sign up.

Onboarding details:

  1. Onboarding is pretty traditional social media, pick some interests, it pulls some accounts it associates with those and has them set to be followed unless you opt not to.
  2. It diverges slightly in that it then tells you your default feed will be Following with settings to disable showing replies/reposts/quote posts if you like (defaults are to display all of these).
  3. Where it gets much different is that it then offers you a selection of custom feeds to make your Main Feeds. For a very rough analogy, these can be a little like communities here or subreddits on Reddit, with more involved under the surface producing them.
  4. This analogy is made more apparent with "Topical Feeds" that try to relate to your previously selected interests.
  5. Lastly some basic adult/graphic content settings that let you adjust whether to show them outright, warn about them, or hide them completely (i.e. not display in your feeds at all). Defaults, aside from non-sexual nudity, are set to not display any of this and hide it all.

Actual use:

  1. Besides more granular graphic content filtering and emphasis on custom feeds, it's pretty much like Twitter or Mastodon/Misskey/etc.
  2. You can kinda "lock" your account to make it less visible to those outside of Bluesky, but that's the closest to limited visibility you'll find at the moment so far as I could tell.
  3. Unlike say, Twitter and Mastodon et al: you can't block/mute people from their posts, you have to go to their profile to do so.
    10.1. Unlike Mastodon/Misskey/etc.: You can't limit the reach of your posts, so they're all maximally public, no option to post only to followers, no option to have replies be unlisted so they don't kinda spam up follower feeds, etc.
    10.2. You currently can't upload gifs/short videos, though you can link them.
    10.3. No audio posts either from what I gather (an option on Mastodon and I'd imagine Misskey and the like as well).
  4. Despite missing those details, it does have similar levels of filtering tools to stuff like Mastodon, and more streamlined exchange of blocklists.
  5. Also while you can't limit the reach of your posts, you can limit who can respond to them.

Some miscellaneous quirks
Something not mentioned as much is that the custom feeds are, at least at the moment, not really user friendly to try to make yourself. These very much have a vibe of something more tech-oriented people may make for others to use, even with the Skyfeed app to ease their creation. If anything the fact something like Skyfeed exists is some evidence of this.

The trick is, the custom feeds are genuinely more flexible than lists of accounts or followed hashtags/terms on Misskey or Mastodon, but at the moment Bluesky's custom feeds seem kind of underutilized. Many of the custom feeds could simply be lists as found elsewhere.

Not sure how much of that is because the only existing platform using the AuthTransfer Protocol is Bluesky, technical challenge, or something else, but that's the state of many of them for now.

Oh, and presently there's no DMs, just as a stray detail to mention. Skimming convos I got the sense it may be to avoid giving people the sense of any private communications on there.

Also despite all these feeds and a more centralized model (dependent presently only on Bluesky's relay), there's still a sentiment from some there of the place being empty and lacking engagement. In the time I was poking about it, one of the "viral" posts in my discover feed was someone there, amusingly much like here and elsewhere on the fediverse, reminding people they have to engage/talk to others to get any engagement.

Some things really don't change where you go online.


My overall takeaway thus far is that it's pretty much par for the course with microblogging platforms, and not necessarily the best first showing of what the AuthTransfer protocol might really enable. Especially not with its lacking reach/privacy controls, not that any federated social media makes sense to promote as highly private, but still, some controls are better than none.

 

Today, we’re releasing an open labeling system on Bluesky. “Labeling” is a key part of moderation; it is a system for marking content that may need to be hidden, blurred, taken down, or annotated in applications. Labeling is how a lot of centralized moderation works under the hood, but nobody has ever opened it up for anyone to contribute. By building an open source labeling system, our goal is to empower developers, organizations, and users to actively participate in shaping the future of moderation.

In this post, we’ll dive into the details on how labeling and moderation works in the AT Protocol.

 

As Bluesky begins to open up more and more, it's felt more pertinent to try to wrap my head around it. To help in this, I decided to write out my rough understanding of it from its documentation, in the hopes that it may help others and myself with any corrections from misunderstandings.


As Bluesky themselves note, the architecture is laid out in Personal Data Servers, Relays, & App Views. The intent is that each of these may be deployed and/or developed independently of Bluesky, with some caveats to each.

First & foremost, which is somewhat glossed over, is the notion that ordinary people will have the knowledge or interest in deploying their own Personal Data Servers. This isn't really touched on from what I've seen in their documentation, despite it being touted as such a major benefit of the architecture.

Second, which is recognized in their documentation, is that due to the high volumes of data involved, there are likely to be fewer Relays deployed instead of many. See the following:

The federation architecture allows anyone to host a Relay, though it’s a fairly resource-demanding service. In all likelihood, there may be a few large full-network providers, and then a long tail of partial-network providers. Small bespoke Relays could also service tightly or well-defined slices of the network, like a specific new application or a small community.

This inarguably undercuts much of the benefit of it as a distributed network given that Relays are what may enable much of the transfer of data across the network.

It is noted that this may be avoided via server-to-server networking, so we'll have to see how that shakes out given it's mentioned almost as an afterthought.

Third, data portability across a distributed network is absolutely an achievement, but it must be scrutinized. Their language concerning PDSs itself indicates they expect them to be as prone to ephemerality as existing fediverse instances, see:

We assume that a Personal Data Server may fail at any time, either by going offline in its entirety, or by ceasing service for specific users.

Data portability then is reliant on a few crucial details:
Clear communication of the need to safely store recovery keys and backups.

Retention of recovery keys in some way (people never lose recovery keys, right?).

Device safety/stability to ensure access to your Authenticated Transfer client's backed up data, and sufficient storage for said backup.


From that last section note the following about PDSs, "...or by ceasing service for specific users", and then see their documentation on PDS Entryways.

Bluesky runs many PDSs. Each PDS runs as a completely separate service in the network with its own identity. They federate with the rest of the network in the exact same manner that a non-Bluesky PDS would.
[...]
To enable this, we introduced a PDS Entryway service. This service is used to orchestrate account management across Bluesky PDSs and to provide an interface for interacting with bsky.social accounts.

What's noteworthy here is that in creating Bluesky Social, they've essentially created a model that I foresee others building on the AuthTransfer protocol emulating. Many everyday people won't be spinning up their own PDSs, in the same way that few people spin up their own fediverse instances. Essentially instead of PDS Entryways, what may emerge may be AuthTransfer Entryways/Gateways for whatever variety of apps may eventually be built on it.

Similar to different fediverse platforms, you may then eventually see AuthTransfer platforms that pair together Entryway services with an App View as Bluesky itself is presently doing. Arguably this may make the AuthTransfer network no more decentralized (they go back & forth on describing their approach as decentralized and distributed) than the ActivityPub network is.


Lastly, regarding custom feeds and composable moderation, there is something on a protocol level here that those using ActivityPub may look to and improve on (and may already be doing so).

In some cruder ways, however, these are already in play on the fediverse. Custom feeds exist here on Lemmy via different communities and instances. More topic-focused instances (on Lemmy as well as other fediverse platforms) in particular can collaboratively produce distinct local and federated/all feeds. To a limited degree similar may be said of "composable moderation" with community moderation and user/instance blocking.

Mastodon even permits the sharing of one's mute/block lists, albeit admittedly somewhat clunkily.

Altogether the AuthTransfer protocol definitely makes some interesting improvements, but not without some awkward tradeoffs that they seem to be trying to talk around instead of speaking more plainly about.


Addendum, as I wasn't sure if I was about to hit a character limit:
The idea of regular people spinning up a Personal Data Server is already pretty laughable, but it's accentuated by the idea that they might also go out of their way to pay for a domain name to sort of establish(?) their identity across the AuthTransfer network. Many will likely simply have names like around here as @name.atentryservice.tld.

Also there's a kind of weird disconnect throughout the documentation from the idea of people perhaps wanting to operate multiple handles/identities for different platforms, or different purposes on the same platforms. A lot of thought seems put into owning/maintaining a singular identity, but not as much to multiple identities.

 

TL;DR:
Posting and voting is important, but with Active sort being the default across many instances, commenting is just as if not more important in helping surface various posts.


Although the instance I'm posting from hasn't updated yet, I've taken a look through other instances of the new sort options, and I think they're nice additions.

However, in doing so, and bouncing between different sorting options, I've noticed something pretty obvious but nonetheless worth recognizing imo. Since the default sort across many instances is Active, commenting feels like it has as much importance, if not maybe more, than voting alone.

You can find a number of posts here & there expressing some frustration at the state of content across Lemmy instances, and to a degree it's not unfounded; yet what's also helping surface much of the content exasperating others, and keeping it at the top, is much of the commenting to each of those posts. At least, under the Active sort setting, as that's basically its intended purpose (that is, to display posts with active conversations, not uh...surface stuff exhausting to some people).

I realize we can get around this individually by changing the default for ourselves (I personally tend to keep mine set to New), but I think it's worth considering from the outside looking in what kinds of posts we're surfacing and keeping at the top with our conversations. Posting a bunch of varied stuff is one thing, but if you see a post that catches your interest, it might be worth not just upvoting and moving on, but adding a comment here and there to try and help others see it.

Well, so long as the Active sort setting remains the standard across instances anyway.

By now I imagine many may take this as a given already, but I thought it worth noting considering some of the frustrated posts, and that I haven't really seen as much talk about the importance of commenting in relation to surfacing content under Active sort. That's part of why I keep my sort set to New and try to chip in comments to different posts without comments in different communities that catch my interest, even if they've already seen several votes.


TL;DR:
Posting and voting is important, but with Active sort being the default across many instances, commenting is just as if not more important in helping surface various posts.

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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Inspired by this post


Image description:
A rainbow llama with a black cowboy hat, and a black lute with a violet outline and strings against a radial purple background.

Text along the top: “'Smoke a turkey'?”
Text along mid-left: "'I smoke with a turkey'"
Green radial gradient turkey to the right: "'dude i'm a peacking'"
Text along the bottom: "'sorry, a peacking'”

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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Image description:
A rainbow llama with a black cowboy hat, and a black lute with a violet outline and strings against a radial purple background.

Text along the top: "They say I 'hallucinate'"
Text along the bottom: "...But I just like messin' with y'all."


Made with Inkscape and some clipart~

also...just in time for google to rebrand their AI crap so the lute doesn't make as much sense, lmao


If ya wanna make your own variations on this, I realized I can share blank versions here:

 

Image description:
a crudely drawn face in top-left panel looking at a simple circle in the right panel says, "I prefer the real orb."

crudely drawn face with raised eyebrow in mid-left panel looking to their right at a now shaded circle with a shadow, "I said the real orb."

crudely drawn face with raised eyebrow and a smile in bottom-left panel looking to their right at the shaded circle, now larger and breaking through the bottom and middle panels closer to their face, "Perfection."


using meme-creation as a means to learn some aspects of inkscape 'cause why not

 

Edit: Apologies in advance for anyone seeing this twice across communities, Lemmy's usually good at letting one know if a link's been posted elsewhere, but it didn't work as I was submitting this.

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old web grandma (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

but wait there's these spaces

Image description:
Young woman helping an old woman as she reminisces about the old web, "The web used to be open and distributed! Not closed and concentrated in the hands of a few companies!" The young woman, "Sure grandma, now let's get you to bed."

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