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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

After you buy a train ticket, you push the train the whole way to your destination.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

then comes over to me, opens the bag, closes it, then leaves

That little brat boomed her good. Trolling IRL at its finest.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

"Hype Loop go poof?" That's all the inside story I need to hear from this douchebag.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/shooting-attack-jerusalem-wounds-least-6-ambulance-service-2023-11-30/

Reuters article on the incident fails to mention IDF killed their own. I wonder how informed these Zionists are.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Many non-uniformed Israeli are packing heat as well which exacerbated the problem.

Also from article:

But with guns in the hands of so many and Israelis as tense as springs, many fear that they are more at risk of being harmed than saved.

Israel has hit the perfect mix of "scared" and "gun ownership" for a friendly-fire explosion.

But it's going to be written off as "Fog Of War, ah well 🤷 ".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

By telling progressives that the referendum is only performative and then telling conservatives the referendum goes too far, the media brainwashed the public.

Aussies are settlers inherently. They needed excuses to vote No. By raising bullshit arguments unrelated to the actual referendum question, they found one palatable excuse somewhere.

The basic attitude of white Australia towards indigenous recognition and reconciliation is terrible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Fucking hell. Another No campaigner given national airtime to blather on about progress when they are actually advocating no constitutional protection for a national indigenous body. That's the opposite of progress. The dumbass said it himself: "There have been bodies before". Those bodies got destroyed. The referendum was about cementing a voice into the constitution.

To say the voice would have no powers is wrong. Fake news to create the excuse to vote No. There was never a NEED to write what the powers would be for the body IN THE CONSTITUTION.

The point was to create constitutional protection of the existence of a voice. Look at the referendum question:

  1. "there shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;"
  2. it will make representations to parliament on indigenous issues
  3. PARLIAMENT WILL DECIDE THE POWERS

So there was never any description of what powers and funding and structure the body would have. So how can this guy say it has no powers? The powers would have been up to parliament to create by passing bills and laws. Why would the constitution need to have those details in it? The referendum was to amend the constitution to make sure a body stays permanent.

The No campaign gave all the fuckwits excuses to vote No. You heard a million bullshit excuses. Understand that they only have to obfuscate the issue and scaremonger and trivialize the idea because Aussies are dumb as shit.

Claim it's just symbolic, then claim it has too much power, claim it is divisive, blah blah blah. All those claims would have depended on parliamentary decisions! The referendum was NOT ABOUT DECIDING THE POWERS OR LACK OF THEM.

Every fucking fossil in politics PRETENDS they are progressive. No one is stupid enough to punt a baby in public. They ALWAYS pretend to care. Read between the lines.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

We already see at the state level that bodies like this do more than symbolism:

In this article https://theconversation.com/some-states-already-have-indigenous-advisory-bodies-what-are-they-and-how-would-the-voice-be-different-214726, they mention an ACT community housing project for older indigenous Australians was provided in cooperation with the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Elected Body.

The TSRA manage the fisheries in Torres Strait and many other projects.

On the national level previously ATSIC provided funds for grants and loans and even provided funds for litigating native title claims.

Previous bodies were not symbolic. Yet the No campaign will ALWAYS be trying to trivialize anything an indigenous body could contribute. We know exactly how these pieces of shit operate.

The electorate is being characterized as racist deplorables?
Yet the outcome here is obviously going to result in taking something away from a racial minority (i.e. see the previous indigenous advisory bodies and safely assume the next national body formed without constitutional protection will ultimately be removed again by a conservative election win). That is simply a racist result. Analyzing the material conditions and history, we can make the conclusion without obsessing over the motivations of individual voters.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

The point was to stop the bullshit of dismantling those similar national Aboriginal orgs each time conservatives wanted to crush them to score a political point. Given their track record of ABOLISHING these bodies, the referendum would have protected them which would already be a material improvement.

That would have been the change. That's progress. But rather than making them permanent, the No vote has just doomed Australia to the endless cycle of creating an org then getting rid of it each time we switch governments.

Australia already attempts to deliver policies and services for Aborigines but the recent approach has been to involve them in the design and delivery to give better results. That is why these bodies need to exist.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

How about you also read the article and understand the historical context:
The past two First Nations advisory organizations have been shut down by the conservative parties each time they won government. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission (ATSIC) shut down in 2005. National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples shut down in 2019. These advisory bodies already existed before.

Having won the federal election, Labor knew if they didn't put a change IN THE CONSTITUTION, as soon as they lost an election then all the years of work they might put into funding and creating another body would get thrown in the garbage by the FUCKING SCUMBAG parties.

So the referendum was about giving Aboriginal leaders back what they PREVIOUSLY HAD in a permanent way RATHER than creating another advisory body and then taking it away with the next change in government under the DOGSHIT two party system in Australia. But Australians are too fucking conveniently ignorant to remember the past. Hence the no vote.

So for the article to talk about boycotting the referendum when the federal government has previously abolished the parliamentary Aboriginal advisory bodies ..... Let's just say it's rage inducing.