Sentrovasi

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Assuming what he's saying is true, I still keep coming back to this line:

“My boss said, ‘I would have killed someone who said what you said in the meeting.’”

How does someone say something like that? And how is this something that he's never been called out for?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The point they are making is if it ends up in a landfill anyway, then you've wasted more energy/resources recycling it.

If it stays on your shelf, that's not what they're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if we're reading the same article or some parts didn't load for you, but it seems full of whys:

Why the supermarkets left at the start
Why it's harder for them to come back
Why certain urban areas have made it more difficult for them to come back (things like zoning)
Why supermarkets themselves may not want to come back (interview with rep and speculation on violence)

Do these not help answer the question?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Have you tried it recently? It brings you to an error page.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Wouldn't it eventually fill up with blood and holy water

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

The only time I think I ever equate the left and the right is that both sides have gotten increasingly tribalist, which this meme ironically proves.

I guess the other time I equate the left and right is in that both sides are very reluctant to hold their politicians accountable for fear of losing to the other side (which is also a result of that tribalism) - even though the left is more willing to say Biden isn't great, they're still giving the DNC a free pass because Trump is worse, and rather than recognising that this election is really Biden's to lose (he just needs to actually tone down on the things that his voter base doesn't like), they're blaming the conscientious objectors who choose to vote their conscience for not being a part of their tribe.

The enlightened centrist meme is a similar issue, where acknowledging any of this qualifies you as being outside of either tribe and therefore also a liability in this game. If it helps, I'm not American and can't vote in your election anyway, so chill out a bit - I'm not losing your election for you (whichever side you're on).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It can work if the politicians are willing to change to listen to their voter base. Both war parties aren't single-issue parties. If parties want to win the democratic mandate to enact other policies, they need to play ball with their electorate. That's the entire point of a democracy - that the electorate gets to be heard. It seems ridiculous that one side is enacting policies that are almost across-the-board unattractive to their demographic, and they're getting away with it because it can't be helped, we can't vote for the other guy, after all. (Obviously the other side is worse, but presumably their side loves their evil policies.)

Your argument basically amounts to "because our political parties will never listen to the people", which to me is pretty damning, and ensures that the DNC can continue to never listen to their voters. Do I want Trump to win? Absolutely not, even as someone not in the US. But the DNC can't be allowed to keep looking at these numbers, shrug, and say people will vote for them anyway.

Edit: My main point is that if Biden loses this because people aren't willing to vote for him, maybe some of the blame should go to the DNC and not just the "stupid voters"?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I think the biggest bugbear for me is always why blame voters voting their conscience and not blame the politicians who refuse to listen to their voter base?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I think the biggest bugbear for me is always why blame voters voting their conscience and not blame the politicians who refuse to listen to their voter base?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Between Biden originally saying that he wasn't sure if he would run for a second term (in 2019, to be fair), and comments from 2023 that he's only running because he doesn't think anyone else can beat Trump, I don't think it's far-fetched to think that he would not run just because he's "the incumbent president".

I do also buy the argument that people who would vote for Biden wouldn't suddenly vote for Trump if another Democratic candidate won the primary. In fact, I feel like from discourse on this platform it seems like the opposite is true: some people would vote for Trump simply because the DNC continues to push Biden.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not sure if I'm not getting something or you're not getting something, but it doesn't seem like a non-sequitur. The idea is that if the DNC chooses its candidates, it can force Biden to step down by pressuring him, forcing him to take the route of "heroically stepping down" (publicly) return2ozma predicts will happen.

Now I don't think it's likely because Biden seems as establishment as it gets, but saying that the DNC chooses who wins the primary is not a non-sequitur in that scenario.

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