citsuah

Brilliant idea for a universal front end. If the user experience is seamless so that the hosting service doesn't matter that would be such a good way to transition to freer platforms

Yet the proposed voice had none of the powers which those bodies do. This guy actually discusses this point in this interview and makes arguments much better than I can. https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=G0kFfqb-63s

Theres no political will to implement any change that will materially benefit Indigenous people. Liberal politics at its core, this proposal was almost entirely symbolic. Now arguably that is still important, which is part of the reason I still voted yes. But I don't think this is necessarily such a great loss for progressive politics. As time has gone on I have much more sympathy for progressive No arguments of Lidia Thorpe and co. You can believe that we have this result because 70% of the Australian electorate are racist deplorables beyond salvation but I think that's not a useful learning from this outcome and it doesn't help progressive politics at all going forward to operate with that assumption.

Given very similar advisory bodies have existed before, do you think the voice would have been successful in improving material conditions for Aboriginal people? For what its worth I voted yes. I was just cynical about the proposed change actually amounting to anything.

I implore you to read the article. Racism is a massive issue in Australia but I really think that is not the correct take from this result.

Did you read the article? I don't think its the correct conclusion to draw that people voted no because of racism. At the start of the year there was around 70% in favour of the voice on polls. The author makes the point, people haven't suddenly become racist in this time. Certainly a proportion of people voted no because they're racist but its not the whole story. Outer suburban areas in major cities which are poor and very multicultural all voted no quite resoundingly, while inner city liberal areas were the only areas that voted yes.

Holy shit wtf I just learnt so much about the US.

The whole situation is the result of Israel's land theft, apartheid, suffocating blockade on Palestinians in the first place.

Also the constant dedication to downvoting seems like the behaviour of someone who is paid to do it. Otherwise why would you do that, normal people would get bored right? I don't go and actively seek out online communities I disagree with to downvote their posts. That would be such a pathetic way to spend my time

It could be US government actors. They would only need to have a handful of people on the job doing fedposting and they would be very visible on Lemmy compared to other platforms because of the small userbase

Something I'm aware of but try not to think about

Yes it is. You're just conditioned to think politics is this inconsequential mental game that has no impact on people's lives.