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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that it is normal of humans to overestimate progress in the short term, and underestimate it in the long term.

That gives me hope, assuming we have a long enough term for all this progress to manifest.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Years ago I learned that tribes people often create large herds (a sign of wealth) that then lead to desertification, famine and poverty. Seems like we do the same thing, but at a higher level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There was a hopeful time when the gas turned off (or the pipleine exploded) and every energy saving project came to the forefront. I hope these efforts are still going on?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

What is that? Like, carbon emissions stop because of general supply chain collapse? Or we all get together and figure out a way to make massive diamond blocks from the CO2 in a hurry?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Is this moral stance somehow correlated to skills and capabilities of the people? Will there be more spills because only the incompetent are left or is there no such link?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Charm Industrial likes Switchgrass I think. To make oil to pump back under.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While it's too much, it's surprisingly small - 66kg. It's like 8 Gallons of Gasoline. Not sure how I would send the phone from China to anywhere for that much fuel - I suppose transport is extra.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Right, I should read the article. Sorry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Two obvious things: China has 2-3 x the people. Maybe adjust to a per person basis? Or a per GDP ratio if you are so inclined. Also, most of the stuff for sale comes from China - so we just moved our emissions there. This is super hard to adjust for, but should be considered a bit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I don't think anyone questions that humans will survive. It's just unlikely that the complex global supply chain that gives us complex tools like microchips etc will survive. And may be massive famine etc after just a few harvest failure, or after the grain can't go down the rivers to the sea any more. Naturally not for the very rich, you can probably buy a bag of rice at a price. It's not survival that's at stake, its civilization and all that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe for a long tail - but I think there were a few reports from other places that phaseout can happen faster than expected :) I am just worried that fossil prices drop because nobody buys them, making it super cheap again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I suppose that's pretty much guaranteed. I am worried that the supply chains stop working before we get serious about climate repair. It'll be interesting to see what happens to the fossil fuel companies when the "proven resources" in the ground become worthless because there are barely any buyers anymore and borrowing against it is no longer possible. I don't know how much they do that - but it would have implications for the finance people.

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