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Admins added a mod to our community without checking if it was actually abandoned (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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** Update: I still haven't heard from any mod, but the user did get back to me though they weren't very receptive to the frustration. However, I did find out that you can remove others as mods but the option is hidden in having to click into one of their posts. So, this unique situation is resolved, but the appointing of a mod without checking if the current community is actually abandoned should still be addressed.**

A user posted on !community_requests claiming that a sub I'm a moderator of had no active mods despite the fact that I have actively been posting on there and holding a moderation discussion with the community this week. At the time of request the account was only a day old. Still, an admin proceeded to make them a mod in our community.

As far as I can tell, this was a mistake on both the user and admin's part.

Within an hour of the new mod appearing I responded to both the admin and the user politely asking them for answers about what happened. I also privately DMed the user on Matrix asking them to demod themselves and put a post up in the community petitioning to become a mod instead of just sidestepping the people who are already there.

It has now been nearly 8 hours and no admin has gotten back to me, and the user hasn't responded.

Even if this is a mistake, it gives me a lot of pause. The fact a one day old account could come and claim our community was abandoned, even though clearly it was not, and be given mod powers for hours upon hours after the mistake being reported is really scary.

Again, I think this was a mistake on both the admin and user's part, but there needs to be a better process to deal with this going forward. I'm really disappointed.___

Thread of sources on Uyghur oppression in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

You keep implying that any "nuanced take" contains unverified claims, but you already said that my take (which I consider more nuanced than the straw-men takes I listed) doesn't. You just believe it doesn't warrant US aggression toward China. Hey, I agree. I have no delusions that my take is going to stop US aggression more than the fact that I ate toast this morning will. My nuanced takes didn't stop the invasion of Iraq in 2003, but neither did my organizing, marching, and shutting down the city I live in when the bombs fell. GWB literally just said "he didn't care about protests".

This thread is literally the most I've ever written or spoken about the Uyghurs, and probably the most I've criticized China this year. It was literally a response to someone posting a list of claims where I called for considering that a lot of it is filtered through the US propaganda machine.

I honestly have better things to do now. If you want to cancel me for saying China isn't perfect and some Uyghurs exist who are unhappy with China, then by all means do so I guess. I'm going to go and actually work on a project that helps change the material reality in the community I live in.

Thread of sources on Uyghur oppression in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I don't use the word "tankie" personally. I find it over simplifies the position of many communists. Yes I straw-manned a fake ML take just I staw-manned a fake anarchist take, because I was trying to say that's those staw-men are how people often argue about this. The whole concept of anarchists treating both the US and China equally in the matter is a straw-man. No anarchist that I know of is organizing efforts in Xinjiang to fight China. While pretty much every anarchist I know in the US spends hours every week organizing efforts to fight the US in one way or another.

You keep claiming I'm saying something I'm not which is what is annoying to me. My entire point is that you are creating better propaganda for the US imperialist machine than a take of "some Uyghurs claim oppression" ever could. You make any claim that the West is producing propaganda on the subject with goals of imperial aggression seem childish and not worth listening to. You berate people who ostensibly agree with you, but they just don't want to start flying the flag of China outside their house either.

Thread of sources on Uyghur oppression in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (4 children)

The only things I said that could be in anyway considered critical of China are:

China is not a utopia and has a number of areas where they could improve
Some of the Uyghurs have made public claims of oppression by China

Trying to argue against either of those seems silly as utopias don't exist in the material world and there is documented video of some Uyghurs claiming they were oppressed by China. Arguing against that with some anarchist, who would take to the streets to stop US aggression against China, on the Internet does nothing to stop US imperialism. It's even more useless than writing your political leaders and begging them not to take action against China.

Thread of sources on Uyghur oppression in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (6 children)

I believe that nothing is beyond criticism, including (and especially) myself, just because there is a worse evil out there. If that's what you believe, then cool I guess. Just please be consistent and stop criticizing me (an anarchist who is post-civ and believes fighting the West is important) as I am a lesser evil relative to the West, and Western hegemony is the #1 enemy.

Thread of sources on Uyghur oppression in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (8 children)

I literally just said that part of my nuanced take is: "I would fight against a US imperial attack (militarily, economically, or otherwise) on China." And "The US getting involved sure wouldn't help anything."

But OK.

Thread of sources on Uyghur oppression in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (11 children)

The discussion around China's treatment of Uygurs is always so unnuanced to me.

All of the arguments I see read like there are only two options:

China is a villain and needs to be stopped.
China has not and never will do anything wrong. Your criticisms are orchestrated by the CIA.

I tend to believe all of the following can be true at the same time:

The US is imperialist and the Biden administration is going hard against China
China is not a utopia and has a number of areas where they could improve
A lot of what the US is pushing in regards to the Uyghurs is filtered through a propaganda machine bent on helping their imperial goals
Some of the Uyghurs have made public claims of oppression by China
As an anarchist I believe in working toward ending oppression and I stand in solidarity with people's struggles against oppression
As an anarchist I would fight against a US imperial attack (militarily, economically, or otherwise) on China
As an anarchist in the US pretty much all of my organizing is focused on oppression here and not in other countries
My actions in solidarity with the Uyghurs are pretty much saying things like "I hope the Uyghurs find liberation in China, but the US getting involved sure wouldn't help anything"