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[–] [email protected] 103 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Do you remember that time Israel blew up a building that had housed various press institutions, including the AP who had used the building for 15 years? And then claimed they had no idea the press used that building? And then said "well, we had evidence HAMAS was using electronic warfare to jam the ~~missiles we use to attack Palestine~~ Iron Dome defense system in that building, but you can't see it, but you can trust us, we showed America"? And then the US said "uh, no you didn't"?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do you remember that time Israel blew up a building that had housed various press institutions, including the AP who had used the building for 15 years?

Yes.

And then claimed they had no idea the press used that building?

I don't remember that.

And then said "well, we had evidence HAMAS was using electronic warfare to jam the ~~missiles we use to attack Palestine~~ Iron Dome defense system in that building

I don't remember that either. Was the situation reported like that initially? I do remember Israel not (publicly) proving to anyone that there was any connection between the building and Hamas.

The Israeli military said it targeted the building because it contained assets of Hamas intelligence agencies, which it said were using media offices as “human shields.” It did not provide evidence for the claims.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/15/gaza-tower-housing-ap-al-jazeera-collapses-after-missile-strike-witness.html

edit: wikipedia has more information about the incident than the news article

Sure enough.

It looks like they denied knowing there was media housed there prior to the strike.

Israeli strike planners were reportedly unaware that the building housed foreign media outlets. At 1:40 P.M., the Shin Bet and the IDF started dialing and texting civilians, including journalists, known to be in the building, forewarning them to evacuate before an imminent strike. Shortly afterwards, two or three missiles hit the top of the site as part of Israel's roof knocking warning system. The building's owner contacted Israeli officials to get the strike called off, while journalists responded by alerting the IDF that journalists required more time to move their equipment out of the building. Once alerted, Israel's military intelligence replied that it has no information regarding the presence of foreign media in the al-Jalaa tower. After discussing the new information for an hour Israeli military authorities decided to proceed with the strike on the grounds that, in their view, Hamas was using the presence of journalists as a human shield.

It looks like they changed the story about what the building housed.

It was later publicized that the IDF believed that a Hamas intelligence unit which operated a number of advanced electronic warfare devices was based in the building with the mission of interfering with the operation of Israeli smart bombs by disrupting their GPS reception.[21][22] On 1 June, Israel said it had provided intelligence to the U.S. government but said that it would not make the information public.[23] On 7 June, Israeli ambassador to the US and representative to the UN Gilad Erdan told top Associated Press executives that Hamas had been developing a system to electronically jam Israel's Iron Dome defenses inside the building.[24]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_al-Jalaa_Building

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The stuff you don't remember happened in the aftermath, I read up on it on Wikipedia to refresh myself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sure enough.

It looks like they denied knowing there was media housed there prior to the strike.

Israeli strike planners were reportedly unaware that the building housed foreign media outlets. At 1:40 P.M., the Shin Bet and the IDF started dialing and texting civilians, including journalists, known to be in the building, forewarning them to evacuate before an imminent strike. Shortly afterwards, two or three missiles hit the top of the site as part of Israel's roof knocking warning system. The building's owner contacted Israeli officials to get the strike called off, while journalists responded by alerting the IDF that journalists required more time to move their equipment out of the building. Once alerted, Israel's military intelligence replied that it has no information regarding the presence of foreign media in the al-Jalaa tower. After discussing the new information for an hour Israeli military authorities decided to proceed with the strike on the grounds that, in their view, Hamas was using the presence of journalists as a human shield.

It looks like they changed the story about what the building housed.

It was later publicized that the IDF believed that a Hamas intelligence unit which operated a number of advanced electronic warfare devices was based in the building with the mission of interfering with the operation of Israeli smart bombs by disrupting their GPS reception.[21][22] On 1 June, Israel said it had provided intelligence to the U.S. government but said that it would not make the information public.[23] On 7 June, Israeli ambassador to the US and representative to the UN Gilad Erdan told top Associated Press executives that Hamas had been developing a system to electronically jam Israel's Iron Dome defenses inside the building.[24]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_al-Jalaa_Building

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

Did you, though?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah it was just a little bit over 2 years ago.