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Developed countries are getting more of their power from renewables every year. Solar and wind are now more cost effective than fossil fuels for bulk generation. The US has lowered its GHG emissions 3% by reducing dependence on coal this year.
Most importantly, policies that encourage renewable use are coming into effect. The next few years should see gradual declines in GHG output.
There is no "over". As long as we keep emitting, we need to cut back. We'll find a sustainable level eventually - it's only a question of when.
There's no need to be harmful, if you've given up you don't need to encourage others to do the same. But as others have said it's far from over, we are only still able to fight because so many of us are trying to do something. If we had no ability to change anything, the capitalists wouldn't work so hard to keep us sequestered and depressed.
How can you say objectively people have done nothing? There is no control to base such a statement on, there is no way to know where we would be as a society without people doing the things they have done. Related to climate, without any fights for protections where do you think levels of industrial pollution would be today? If you see no progress at all maybe your time frame is too limited.
What do you even think my values are? I saw another comment of yours says we should do what is right because it's what's right, not because it's what feels good. I agree with that sentiment, I don't think our values are so different but I don't know. Even if we are defeated and climate collapse and global authoritarian tyranny or whatever hellscape is inevitable at this point, what else do we have to do? I would rather know I did what I could than give up too soon.
Actually very good point and excellent use of the word sequestered