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EDIT: you guys have dug up some truly horrible pisstakes :D Thank you for those.

To the serious folk - relax a little. This is Mildly Infuriating, not I'm dying if this doesn't stop. As a non-native speaker I was taught a certain way to use the language. The rules were not written down by me, nor the teachers - it was done by the native folk. Peace!

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (19 children)

The fewer-versus-less argument is the result of Robert Baker writing down his preferred style, which was then taken as gospel. Less and fewer have been used interchangeably for hundreds of years.

The distinction is as important as me writing down that I think every last letter in a sentence should be a capital letter for symmetry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Isn't every rule just a preference of someone influential enough to make it into a rule?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (6 children)

No.

There's two types of grammar rules. There's the real grammar rules, which you intuitively learn as a kid and don't have to be explicitly taught.

For example, any native English speaker can tell you that there's something off about "the iron great purple old big ball" and that it should really be "the great big old purple iron ball", even though many aren't even aware that English has an adjective precedence rule.

Then there's the fake rules like "ain't ain't a real word", 'don't split infinitives' or "no double negatives". Those ones are trumped up preferences, often with a classist or racist origin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It certainly sounds like you have a strong preference how to split preferences into two groups. ;)

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