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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"But why would they care about MY data, I don't do anything special"

Anyone outside of tech when I even passingly mention privacy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I don't have anything to hide. Do YOU have anything to hide??

Probably my most hated sentence in the privacy conversations

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What's the counter to that sentence then?

Every time I try to explain why this is a dumb sentence using the door lock analogy I always get rebuffed by it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

First, when you get into these arguments, always start from the viewpoint that these people do not see any worth in their data. Their convenience is worth way more than any privacy breach. That's why your goal is usually to convince them that privacy breaches can be a huge innconvenience for them, use their selfishness to advocate for their self-interest.

Quick example, what defines something that needs to be hidden changes constantly with different governments and regulatory bodies. There's no telling if your current data won't be illegal or something in the future, causing you problems. That's why it's important to have protections for your data to begin with so a future government can't just unilaterally decide to trample all over your rights.

Basically, see what they care about and try advocating from that viewpoint, not your personal viewpoint. There's a good chance you'll have a line of argument.

I find that I have more success convincing people if I put their self-interest first and foremost instead of trying to explain some grand ideology. People want something tangible, not a hazy ideal. It's only when something affects them that they may change their views.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Ask them about their bank, all their passwords, the contact information of everyone they ever loved, ya know, in case you ever need to use that information against them or without their consent,

keep going till they are properly creeped out and as upset as they should be at anyone but them knowing that information.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I say "yes, and you do too, that's why we have HIPPA. You think we should get rid of HIPPA?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do YOU have anything to hide??

“Yea my bank information, passwords, personal identity, identity of all my loved ones. But hey, if you hate having security and love being blackmailed and hate everyone who you have ever made contact in your life and wish to make their life hell then you do you and stay far the fuck away from me. We don’t know each other and we never will”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There was some segment somewhere about the fact that the NSA has all your nudes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

And then you always get that one girl saying: "Yeah whatever let them look at my nudies, I dont' care"...