Fuck any and every religion that insists they need to impose their ways on others to be in good favor with their God. Fuck them in any and every form.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Hijab is supposed to be voluntary under Islamic scripture. Islam does not include anything about having to impose anything on others. Attempting to downvote you results in a server error.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And Christians are supposed to give up all early possessions, renounce sex and serve God all their days.

What's your point? Theory means fuck all.

Religions are coercive social structures. You cannot distinguish those doing it willingly from those corrected into "proper behavior". As such a civil society can permit neither.

Re: downvotes - no idea why it's not working, but your anger is obvious enough without it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Christians are not obligated to give up sex or “all early possessions”. At most they’re just obligated to give up personal trinkets during lent and fund the church. My point is that there is no coercion within Islam to wear a hijab, kinda like how there is no coercion within Christianity to be a virgin.

People who want to oppress women will do it regardless of means. Islam is just an excuse. There are many atheists who use their moral code instead.

To distinguish them, just get their confidence and ask them in a safe environment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

all earthly possessions

Matthew 6:19-34 and Luke 18:22-25

Pretty unequivocal: give up everything and serve God.

there is no coercion within Islam to wear a hijab, kinda like how there is no coercion within Christianity to be a virgin.

The fuck there isn't. Coercion in Christian sects is rampant. Your parents finding out you're not a virgin will have you disowned in plenty of Christian households.

People who want to oppress women will do it regardless of means

And people who want to murder will do it regardless of means. That doesn't allow us to throw up our hands and let murder cults exist. Instead we extirpate them, outlaw them, stamp them out both legally and culturally.

To distinguish them, just get their confidence and ask them in a safe environment.

Pragmatically speaking this is, unfortunately, the best we can hope for. I'm not talking about pragmatics here though: I'm talking about fundamentals. Theory. What is a truly polite society?

It's not one where religious coercion is allowed to fester.

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