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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

All operating systems are now, except vanilla Linux.

I stress vanilla Linux because Android started this Ad-OS shitshow and Android is Linux with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You could just call the Free operating systems GNU/Linux or NonGNU/Linux.

"Vanilla linux" is vague terminology and distorts history.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Ok ~~Boomer~~ Stallman.

Seriously though, do you really think being a pedantic jackass like Stallman actually ingratiates anyone to FOSS? Because it doesn't, just so you know. It's absolutely annoying eye-rolling shit for regular people. But sure, keep gatekeeping Linux as a place where only people with no fucking social skills get to use it or talk about it.

Stallman and attitudes like his absolutely alienate people. Ignore that at your own peril, if you actually want growth in Linux adoption.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What an attitude you have. He made a suggestion, and wasn't gatekeeping anything.

There exists VanillaOS btw.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally nobody likes a pedant who waltzes in only to be pedantic and offer nothing else to the conversation. I don't know why that's so shocking to you unless you also have zero fucking social skills.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny how both replies to you actually DID offer something to the conversation, providing information for clarification to yourself and others, but your reply to BOTH of them was to be a whiny little bitch making up argumentative points out of the blue to make you feel self-important. Maybe you should just calm down, take the information that was provided, and move on with your day.

Or is this the point where you call me "pedantic" as well, because you sure seem to like using that word to describe everyone but yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

pedantic has a literal definition, chucklefuck.

Pedant: a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning.

Or am I wrong that the original person I was responding to was not being pedantic about Linux vs. GNU/Linux? It's like the literal definition of pedantry. Also, I only ever accused the person quibbling about that as pedantic. The other guy I merely had to assume has no social skills, if they don't understand how annoying pedantry is.

Sorry I know how to use words.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Why yes, it DOES have a definition. Funny how ALL words are like that.

The first person told you the correct terms to use for what you were talking about, because saying "vanilla linux" doesn't mean anything to anyone. Are you talking about a base install of one specific linux distribution? Are you talking about building your own linux-from-scratch? Are you talking about a clean install of Android on your cell phone? That's already three completely different examples off the top of my head and I'm sure there are many other possibilities that your phrase may have meant to other people.

And of course the second person pointed out that there's a real linux distribution called "VanillaOS", but apparently you think that was also pedantic even though it is factual information and further shows how confusing your terminology was.

Just face it, you're being an ass for no apparent reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stallman is right about all his free software takes except his take that commercial free software is acceptable.

(He also has a very bad take about they/them pronouns)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And Epstein, don't forget his bad takes on connections with Epstein.

Motherfucker is full of bad takes. Tired of people acting like he's something to look up to, even when I agree with a lot of his good takes. The tech community needs to get fucking self reflection and grow its social skills. People need to follow Linus Torvald's lead in realizing that he may not be perfect and may need to work on how he communicates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's absolutely annoying eye-rolling shit for regular people.

This is how I feel about reading your posts, dingus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess all the other open source operating systems don't count anymore?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think they meant vanilla Linux like vanilla OS, but more as in the vanilla versions of Linux without much on top/proprietary software.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I suppose if you're running stock MIUI/use stock Google browser then that would be the case.