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The history of psychology is wild.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There’s a reason him and Jung’s findings are ignored in favor of actual scientific discoveries.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Jung's findings have been debunked?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Carl_Jung

To be more specific, Jung's psychology has been characterized as "unscientific" on the following grounds:

  • that some Jungian concepts, such as archetypes and synchronicity, cannot be proven by the scientific method
  • that Jung subscribed to a nineteenth-century notion of evolution that has since been discredited
  • that Jung's valuation of the mental functions of feeling and intuition on the same level as thinking weakens the attitude of rational objectivity that is essential in scientific research
  • that Jung's interest in occult traditions, including the pre-scientific European past (third-century Gnosticism and medieval alchemy) and contemporary Asian cultures (Taoism and Tibetan Buddhism) amounts to a glorification of mysticism and irrationality
  • that Jung's clinical specialization in the treatment of schizophrenia and his own brush with psychosis made him an untrustworthy guide to "ordinary" reality

https://www.europeanmedical.info/cognitive-therapy/the-unscientific-nature-of-jungs-psychology.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Thanks for the explanation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

See, the only issue with that explanation is that it didn't really introduce to the reader any of Jung's contributions or beliefs. But yeah, fuck spiritualists. This Jung guy would have been right at home in a modern Midwifery Association.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

There’s lots more on the internet where that came from.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is only 10% of the article dipshit. Some of these points are only theorized to be the case.

Also, I find it kind of funny. Scientific method is just a model with its own flaws and is bound to faliure in certain fields as all models do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You aren’t much of a thinker, are ya?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

how do you feel about who has the burden of proof? the person claiming the thing or someone saying there is no evidence to suggest that the claim is correct?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How do you debunk a bunch of woo?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you seen Freud's mom? You'd start cranking out justifications too.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

you wildin'

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Hips for days

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Hubba Hubba!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Freud bullying someone in school: HEY THERE FATTY FACE, YOU'RE BIG AND FAT!!

Bullied kid: ....... your mom

Freud then spends his life trying to come up with a clever come back

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

FUCK YOU! I'VE MOTHERFUCKED BEFORE AND I'LL MOTHERFUCK AGAIN! IM A SERIAL MOTHERFUCKER!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The lefternmost girl looks like she is kinda into it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

"H-hey stepbro..."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

She's the ten percent

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion: I kinda like Freud. Sure, a lot of his ideas were debunked over the years, but he was one of the first people in the field to take women's mental health seariously. He also thought of homosexuality as something that isn't a choice and can't be changed, unlike a lot if his peers.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

Freud had bad ideas, sure. But he was literally one of the first people in history to academically propose that maybe there was something going on with the way people think and the choices they made that they weren't aware of (the subconscious).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fun Freud Fact: He didn't actually start from the ideas of Oedipal Complexes and Penis Envy.

That came about because many of his clients were the children of the wealthy, and quite a few of them were reporting sexual abuse, but he couldn't tell all the rich pricks to stop raping their children in the middle of trying to found psychology as a field of study.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is based on a very sketchy theory itself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Sure it is, that's why no professional who has read his notes disagrees with the overall analysis that he covered up the extent of sexual abuse in his patients to save his career.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Psych studies are a cardhouse from top to bottom.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Really, you have to believe me, is not only me, ALL boys want to..."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

"I do it too..... I ALWAYS think about your Mom when I'm having sex" - Joey from Friends.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Girl on the right's diggin it though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Girl on the left in the back too

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I only just noticed there's dudes in this picture

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Ok Siggy, maybe take it easy on the blow?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I remember taking psych 101 or some equivalent and there was an entire 50 minute lecture about Freud. At the end I raised my hand and was like, "This... This is all considered bullshit now, right?" I can't remember what exactly the answer was, but I do remember that it wasn't an unequivocal yes. And that scared me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

sadly, not all practitioners practice evidence-based psychotherapy. some practice non-directive conversion about joe rogan topics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dude’s thinkin w his dick, okay. Freud was raised by his nanny and had very little contact with his bio-mom. Reasonable to assume it was so little that he experienced her as a stranger, & thought she was hot.

Extremely unreasonable to consider any mammal would have sexual urges that would result in immediate severe inbreeding. Some past-centuries gooner got all hot, great, but don’t make me take his porn seriously

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Father?

Yes, son?

I want to kill you.

Mother?

I WANT TO....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I love how accurate their faces would be in that situation. The blonde guy in the back having an existential crisis, the girl on the far left low-key excited about this idea.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Still better than when he talks about the eels

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I don't even want to know.