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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Well, as a guy, I've been asked multiple times why I systematically play games female characters in video games, to the point of skipping a game if I'm forced to pay a male one, with a few exceptions (I really liked Albus from Troubleshooters for example). Whenever there's romance in a game, I'll also take the F/F route. Yet, I don't think I fetishize those in general. There's a thing about not liking most M characters in games, but also something about playing someone really different from who I am. We've had an interesting conversation about this with my gf who always plays F characters and woyd never play M.

Although I'm a straight guy, I've always more identified to female friends and characters, although I have a few male friends too. So I'm wondering who else does that (playing a character not matching your gender), and if you found your own explanation.

Edit : It's not really an oversexualization drive for me, I try to play a female character that looks like me, even though I've never thought about actually becoming a woman.

Edit 2 : So far, I think we have, hmm..

  1. Playing someone that differs from one's irl identity
  2. Physical Attractivity
  3. Male character writing and design
  4. Lara Croft effect
  5. Lady Dwarf
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (13 children)

If I have to stare at a digital ass, it might as well be a chick’s ass

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why are you staring at the ass and not literally everything else in view?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Because the game designers went out of their way to give the female character model a nice ass.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Cishet guy; I play female characters more often than not.

One factor for me is that so many male characters feel... cheesy, like the game assumes I'm hideously insecure in my masculinity and need to be excessively pandered to by making my avatar Muscledick McFireman, and all the ladeeeez will just be aching to jump into my pants when they see my ridiculously huge arms.

It feels like really sad wish-fulfilment fantasy, to the point that it wrecks the immersion; it's almost getting into AI Girlfriend levels of cringe.

There's more to it and I haven't fully worked out all the edges, but that's a big lump of it.

I mean yes okay I also ferinstance play female dwarves in dragon age because my god Becky, but that's both minor and very situational.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The women characters are just as cheesy too though. Boobieabs McMakeup

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Smol tiddy Gith GF begs to differ :D

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also cishet dude. I've never even thought about why I very slightly prefer playing as a female avatar, but this feels about right to me.

That and Samus Aran, probably.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

People look at gender while I'm just trying to see what style fits me in playing. Sometimes it's male characters and some times they are female.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Same dude. People make a big deal of this shit all the time but it literally does not matter to me.

If the game wants me to create a character I’ll just make a dude like me and spec him out with the stats I want. If there’s preset characters to choose from, I couldn’t care less who they are. If I want to play a necromancer and the only one is an 8ft pink lizard lady that farts rainbows, fuck it, I’m playing an 8ft tall lizard lady necromancer that farts rainbows.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Yes, generally if it's new to me, I don't have an appreciation of how their individual play styles will match mine, so I'll default to the malez same as me. However, where I'm familiar with the characters and their game style, I'll choose what suits the game in the style I like to play.

So for instance, street fighter is chin li for life.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If I'm going to play an MMO watching someone's ass run from point A to B for 40 hours a week, it's damn sure gonna be a woman's ass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Whether this is the actual reason or simply the most socially acceptable explanation that can be stated is unclear.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

MMORPG = many men online role playing girls

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

I'm a cis guy and I play primarily female characters. I will play male characters, but I find it fascinating to roleplay as a female character. It's something I'll never experience in real life and I find female characters are often more interesting.

IMHO if you're going to pretend/imagine yourself as the character you're playing, I feel you might as well do something that isn't you for the experience. Otherwise, what's the point of putting yourself in a characters shoes if you just make yourself in that world? I already know how I'd be in any situation....because I'm me. Hell, in RPG games I'll even sometimes romance male characters, if thats an option(Playing Femshep in Mass Effect, I will often romance Garrus Vakarian, for example).

Then again, I'll also sometimes explore LGBTQ+ relationships, if they're offered, playing as either male or female characters, even though I'm not interested in that in real life.

Is it a little weird? Probably, but it also helps me understand what it might be like for other types of people and how to better understand and sympathize with their life struggles and experiences. RPG stands for Role Playing Game, after all.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cishet guy. Most male protagonists are too brutish. They look dumb. Female protagonists seldom have that issue.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Agreed.

Strong male lead = dumb brute

Strong female lead = badass

Edit: 'dumb' being used liberally here

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You lost me at "to the point of skipping a game"

It's 1 thing to prefer, it's another to obsess over it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

If I have to stare at a butt all day, I would rather it be a female butt.

I mean, yeah, this is basically the reason for me, without the horny part. I don't experience immersion in third-person games, and I don't have a strong sense of identity, so I might as well have a character bobbing up and down on screen that I enjoy looking at.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Male. If I can make a character, I'll make a male character almost every time, especially on a first run. Or if the character is otherwise a placeholder for "me* in the game.

That said, I love when games give us female protagonists that aren't sexualized (think FF6), and I'd love to see more of that.

So, do I prefer to play as a male character? It depends.

I'd like to see some good takes on "female perspective" in games. But if it's basically an aesthetic difference, I'm making a character that matches my gender because it's supposed to be "me" in the game.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Regarding MMOs in particular:

I’ll play male characters when the female model is more sexual than I’m comfortable with, always. The first that comes to mind is WoW where the male models had a lot more ‘character’ to me. If I’m playing an Orc or Worgen I don’t want to look like a green/fury generic female body that has a straight back so you can see the ‘goods’. For EQ I had a mix of Male/Female alts, but did tend towards Male.

I also tend to like the way male armor is modeled over boob-plate.

Single player narrative games will depend on if romance is an option as I’ll tend to play female, otherwise it’ll be a toss-up with consideration to my prior points.

Over the years I’ve found it easier to hide behind a male avatar/username as I’ve gotten some rough interactions over the years and will only join voice if I feel like the people I’m text chatting with are chill. Tried joining a guild recently and got more ‘onlyfans’ jokes than I was comfortable with, and I’m sure someone will say that’s my fault for being irked by it, but that’s why I take these steps.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Yep! Perfect visual representation haha

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i wouldn't overthink it too much. it seems youre in a category of almost 30% of male respondents, not all preferences say something meaningful about us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Maybe. I'm not a native English writer so it may not have sounded like I wanted. I just find this curious, but I'm not in pain because of that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Cis-het guy, usually play female characters. One of my first action games as a kid was Tomb Raider and I think that just cemented in my mind that women characters are badass

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lady Dwarf. If there is an option for it, always lady dwarf.

Started with world of Warcraft, I just wanted the least played character type, so Cindie the lady dwarf warrior was born. She lives on in any game where it’s an option.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

In a typical core PC/console game, about 60% of the female avatars you meet are played by a male player.

Seems low

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I pretty much exclusively play os female characters (I'm a male). I think it's mostly that male characters in video games are mostly the same.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This feels like trolling or horseshoe theory in play, you skip games where you can only play male, aka most games? This is very similar to people who skip “woke” games because they can not play as male.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, it depends. I'd skip games I'm mildly interested in, yes. And yes, it means most games. Well strangely enough it may depend on the game, LoL or other MOBAs, for example, I don't mind the gender of my character.

But yes, I may have in common with those people the tendency to skip some games, but it stops here. The main difference being I'm not going to annoy anyone or cry on steam boards because of my personal preferences.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I am male. If given the option to play female and a female would make the story more interesting I will choose to play a female. What defines "interesting" is arbitrary. Valheim - female named Muscle Wife. Phasmophobia - black male with friends (due to movie tropes) and female solo (because they look janky and ragged as hell). MMOs - depends on the aesthetic. If I am going to be staring at a character for a long time and I am not roleplaying an ugly bastard then I will choose female most of the time since I don't play MMOs to self insert.

When choice isn't an option I do not avoid a game just because of a character's race or gender, but I am starting to get real sick of white male protagonists. They aren't really offering me any new perspectives.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I usually just play whoever has the best racials or abilities. If i can play as the giant tank guy or girl (think Karlach or Reinhart) i usually play as them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Really depends on the game/story and if I like the characters. For example playing Fallout 4 as a female protagonist felt out of place, like it was just a mod that someone hacked in. But on the other side Cyberpunk 2077's male character annoyed me enough that I restarted as female V. And then there's games like Skyrim where the only difference I notice is the grunts you make in combat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I play female characters because their customization options are much more diverse and they have a lot more styles to choose from. From their hair all the way down to their shoes. Male characters, I find, don't have as much options. Now, don't get me wrong on what I'm about to say, people can wear what they wanna wear and that's cool with me, but if I'm playing a muscle ripped dude with pecs registered as weapons a skirt doesn't really fit him. Plus, if it's a 3rd person game, I'd rather be looking at a female butt than a male butt.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I play female because their character model/hitbox is smaller most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

@needthosepylons I mean I always play khajit in skyrim, doesn't make me a furry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Depends if the game refers to the character as "you" or "them". Used to always make female characters since they're nicer to look at, up until games started actually taking that into consideration.

Nothing quite like being called a girl to reassure you that you're not an egg :P

edit: and of course if the game doesn't offer options I don't care.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I like playing things that are not me.

Me playing female characters is the same reason why you will never see me play a human if I can get the option to be literally anything else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Personally it's because I like the range of outfits better when I create a female character. Like a dude maybe has trousers, jacket and a shirt but a woman has those and a skirt and a blouse and a dress. I like having more options. I'm also not sure if I'm completely cis or not as I'm now starting to question some things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I opt to play as a female character sometimes. A quote from the article perfectly summed it up for me: "If I have to stare at a butt all day, I would rather it be a female butt".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

An aspect that I haven't seen mentioned explicitly is that female characters for the longest time were just easier to pick out in a 3rd person view.

They have a different silhouette, often more flamboyant garb (to stick out among the male dominated aesthetic), and sometimes even different animations making them easier to pick out in a group fight.

Also, I have fewer stereotypes of females in medieval or sci-fi settings, which makes it slightly easier for me to explore both the world and different roles in ways I might have missed playing a stereotypical male.

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