What a bunch of useless SOBs. Can't I clone somebody better?
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Going dark with it: How much are organs worth on the black market?
Keeping it light: like 4 or 5 maybe, as long as there is no degradation in capabilities I think I could feasibly let 1 do my job, then the rest and myself could pursue other intellectual endeavors. I would also always have a full D&D group and be able to play the multiplayer games I have always wanted to that never had the interest of my friends.
8,093,000,000
Andy Weir - The Egg:
Such a great short story. My first exposure to this was the Kursgesagt animated version:
Fuck it, I'm making an army and marching on the US.
Me after splitting myself into any number of copies:
Yeah great, so Iβd have another person around that I donβt really like.
I'm up to 42. More than that just seems wanky.
It would be very ill advised, but SO MANY. Enough to organize them. There's a mall nearby that's slowly shutting down, it's like 99% empty now, and there are homeless encampments all outside it being hassled by cops. Instead of giving it to them, it's gonna wind up bulldozed and turned into rich people condos. I'd make enough clones to occupy it and turn it into adhoc co-op housing!
...And obviously like all the boning and other stuff one does with clones as well lol.
My copies would just unionize.
Imagine being the copy that has to work while one does the family and one is traveling. The ethics of making a copy of myself that is for all purposes a slave would be really weird. Enslaving copies of myself, what a concept. Oh, also one needs to be kept on away for organ needs as I age or get hurt and one with a master copy in case the main "I" dies unexpectedly. yikes
OP says you can sync memories both ways - easy solution is to just take turns.
One clone so that I can be a stay-at-home dad without losing my income. Finally finish grad school and fix up the house. Show my kid the world when they get old enough to appreciate it. Get a second job once they start school - something to get me outside, or working with people face-to-face. That would be amazing.
None as well. The copies will have same needs, same level of lazyness. This won't benefit anyone, quite the contrary. Just more bad people.
At least 3 total. One to be a stay at home parent, one to do my day job, and one to do my side hustle. Possibly another to just learn things.
Zero. I don't hate myself enough to put myself through this twice.
Hell, Iβm sad and depressed too when Iβm alone, but I manage to get the laundry done and keep the lights on.
You are mistaking not wanting to torture another human being and subject them to a miserable existence, with depression. I think you might also be confusing being sad and lonely with depression.
All I'd need is one. She'd do doppelgΓ€nger work and keep me company sentimentally as well as fulfill, ahem, physical needs.
Interesting idea but I would utterly hate a person like me.
The old saying about "you hate in others what reminds you of yourself" feels like it was written for me!
I really need someone to contrast my personality. I'd kick clone out within minutes.
Tangentially related, but I often think about if everyone on Earth were just like me, what kind of place would it be?
Nah, that's what you think. You'd be hate fucking yourself before the end of the day
Everyone has horrific qualities about them, but everyone has redeeming qualities too. I'm sure you and your clone would fight, but I can imagine you would get a lot done too
One me gets basically nothing done. I feel like a second me is just gonna be used to play all the coop games my friends don't play and we're gonna achieve even less somehow.
Your clone is only a copy of you at first, the more it experiences, the more different it becomes. That's going to cause issues eventually. They may even start working against you.
The solution is The Prestige.
The clone only exists long enough to complete a task or fulfill a purpose, but then one of us (and we don't know which) is gonna get dropped through a trap door and drowned when we're done.
I disagree. The comment says you can Sync up memories. That means those memories and experiences would happen to both people once Synced.
If there was no Syncing then I fully agree.
Iβm assuming these copies would also need to eat, sleep, and bathe as well, so thereβd be some cost increases as these copies are added into the mix. Just getting extra jobs probably would only go so far before questions started getting asked or somebody noticed, so an army of me working multiple jobs really wouldnβt go well. Iβd probably keep it minimal with only one copy, maybe two if I could make it work financially and set up some sort of work rotation so that βIβ was only going into work once every few weeks. I might start doing a bunch of freelance design, writing books, gaming and whatever else.
Even better though would be if these were short-term copies that I could just absorb back into myself after a day or whatever and I didnβt have to worry about maintaining their bodies, like Mr. Meeseeks and they just disappear after their task is done. Then Iβd just make copies left and right. βOh shit, Iβm out of milk. Copy #3,945,612, go get some milk, thanks.β
If it were me, there's a risk I would gain weight as I just sit at home playing video games and watching TV while my copies did all the work and errands. So each new copy would be slightly chubbier than the last. I would have to make a real effort to stay active, maybe exercise while my copy is out doing stuff, or get into an outdoor sport.
Just one. Cutting my work and responsibilities in half would be a significant improvement in my quality of life.
Would you be able to live with yourself?
I've had worse roommates. I can make it work.
You mean feed and house more people on a single income and subject those people to this hellscape? No thanks.
Plus, is my clone really going to be fine with acting as a slave? Unlikely.
I thought about this and sometimes I really appreciate having someone to offload executive function to (like a personal trainer). Maybe we could take turns.
I enjoy both acting like a leader, as well as not having to think and just doing what I'm told. But I don't enjoy, or am productive, when I have to both act as my own leader and follow my instructions. Splitting in 2 and aplitting those 2 roles would probably increase my productivity and happiness 10 fold.
I was thinking something more along the lines of splitting the work equally, then synching memories after and then I have way more free tine (I'd unsplit for that).
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3 for security, 3 for family, and 3 for wandering.
we are crawancon
Why for security?
24 hours in a day means 3x 8 hour shifts on watch. Shit goes down and you can muster up a total of 3 to defend the original who can amass a hoard to zerg rush your enemies with waves of meat.
I think I meant more "why is security even necessary in your daily life?"
In this hypothetical situation, I would like to bolster the preservation of both the clones lives and possibly the OG Bio as much as possible. but I don't want to go overboard with a whole empire of me.
i could call it crawancon's council of nine... or perhaps nonet. or just crawanconglomerate.
yeah , fun at parties over here.
It would have to be a lot to change the local society, since one of me struggles in this job market and more of me will increase costs without increasing income (unless they all get a welfare cheque). More of my projects would finish (money notwithstanding), and I guess we could do heists. I'm not too fussed about who is the alpha, I think I could die tomorrow and have lived a kinda sad life and be OK with it.
There's the option of raising an army of clones and take control over the senate, that way you don't have to worry about the job market anymore
A billion copies to lead a communist revolution. Any more than that would probably be unsustainable globally in the short term while the existing capitalist systems are being dismantled and replaced.
Or 3 or 4 clone friends to help out with daily life.
Both are cool. The latter is probably easier and what my copies could actually manage.
Edit: Actually, the ability to sync memories is so ridiculously overpowered that one could probably achieve pretty much anything with their copies.
It also seems like its usefulness would scale up exponentially the more copies you make, so I'll go with the first one.
I mean, with that ability you are basically a hivemind. And if playing Stellaris has taught me anything, it is that more pops are always good.