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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Let's just go back to IRC and XMPP. The modern "chat" landscape is dismal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can just use Matrix with bridges

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You got a guide? I have not been able to setup the thing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Don't have friends. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (8 children)

i really fucking hate discord.

Why does EVERYTHING have to be proprietary. Fucking capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Its pretty amazing for voice communication in gaming.

As a messenging app? Meh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

dude discord has been one of the worst experiences for voip in gaming IME. I started using mumble SOLELY because discord was actually just disappointing. Though tbf maybe if i paid out the ass for nitro it's better? I ain't paying for that though.

Though yeah, for messaging, it's dogshit, It's a mess.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Spoken like a real android user. All my iPhone friends (and especially family) refuse to download any other app, they just complain that I physically can't download iChat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (9 children)

As an iPhone user, iChat is mid. I think it’s only in the Us that it is widely used.

Embrace the beauty of Signal now

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, there was a nice period when Pidgin could easily handle all the chats. Then providers siloed their apps 🫤

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (14 children)

That was the time when all the apps were standard XMPP. It didn't have proper encryption back then. WhatsApp is still XMPP nowadays, but excluding federation and non-standard implementation on Meta servers and so on

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I really miss how windows phone allowed other chat services to plug in to it, so that you could have a single chat app for all your contacts, but open the individual apps for advanced features.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Same went for Blackberry 10 and its Hub

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Friends don't make friends install chat apps (besides Signal)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Signal is the best, but no way I'm going to be able to get my wife, my friends, my parents and in-laws to use it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Have you considered emotional blackmail?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, I haven't reached that point yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Do yo need a wife, friends, parents, or in-laws?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just never interact with anyone. Christ, it's not that hard people! (This comment doesn't count.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

We're all bots. You still haven't interacted with a person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just stop using the spyware ones?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That leaves you with element, signal and telegram?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Oh, where to begin. Telegram is wild. It may not be spyware in the traditional sense, but they've already handed over data to the Indian government, left a telephone number scraping vulnerability open for the Iranian government, and gotten caught with "the most backdoor looking bug" with their unwisely handmade encryption algorithm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Telegram's backend is proprietary software and they (very similarly to Discord for example) can just decide to read your chats whenever they want. It's even worse then WhatsApp in this sense (at least as long as you trust Facebook that they actually encrypt your chats, again, there is no way to know if it's proprietary software).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Telegram and signal are both central points of failure. Signal can be used with other servers, but the server address is hard coded in the app, so you have to deploy your own app. Matrix servers can keep a channel going even if the channel's home server goes down. The more home servers there are, the more mirrors of public channels there will be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

if you won't talk to me except through insta then you're not worth being friends with just fucking text me like a normal ass human.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah yeah we got it you have multiple friends quit bragging about it now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

Add SimpleX and Conversations-i2p

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Somebody please tell me what's wrong with just texting? Why did half the world decide MMS needed to be replaced with a proprietary app? It works, everyone has it and there's no confusion. Unless you are concerned about privacy or something, why not just text?

Edit: MMS not SMS. I didn't understand the difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

what’s wrong with just texting

If you have friends in another country, it might cost a quarter every time you send a message.

In regions of the world (e.g. Europe, and a lot of Asia) where some countries are the size of a large city (or perhaps the entire country is one city), that's a problem. You'd be sending international texts all day every day.

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