That's not really fair to Crowder. He's also a misogynist and racist piece of shit.
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don't forget workplace sexual assaulter and abusive husband
Truly well rounded.
And a climate change denier. Basically a piece of shit grifter.
Only use the original macro for dunking on Crowder.
Why would anyone care who the stereotypical white dude is? That is giving importance/energy to the wrong thing. I didn't even really notice nor care who he was (and still don't). That said, I don't generate memes with him in it so I guess I'm doing my part. 🤷🏻♂️
Why would anyone care who the stereotypical white dude is?
Because he doesn’t deserve to be the guy in the meme. Think about all the other actually cool people who have been immortalized in silly memes, a lot of times they get interviewed and it is really funny. Everybody enjoys on some level that the person in the funny meme they are looking at is actually a real human being who has the goofy honor of being famous for the really specific, niche context of that meme.
Why give that joy to a complete asshole and loser? Why give it to a media personality who spreads hate? Who cares if nobody recognizes who Crowder is, Crowder doesn’t even deserve to be interfaced with as an anonymous white dude in a meme, it takes away the necessary shame Crowder should experience at every interface with the broader public.
Within the context of the meme it's a guy with a mug and an exploitable sign on his table. Nothing more.
This shit sounds pretty tiring, IMO :/
Are you trying to suggest that the literal image of the man who created the meme has nothing to do with the man himself?
Yes I understand the question "who is that?" may not occur to you. It does to others, and results in this pile of dirt getting free traffic.
Are you genuinely struggling to understand why people who think he's actively saying hateful shit about trans people wouldn't necessarily want to increase his presence in the general Zeitgeist?
Or did you just want to slip in the "stereotypical white guy" dog whistle?
If you are actually struggling, i can probably help.
imagine a person saying horrible shit about you, specifically.
Now imagine they have a platform where they say this hateful shit to lots of people, enough that you sometimes run across these people and they also say hateful shit to you, perhaps worse.
Now imagine an unrelated meme is made with this persons face on it and you see it 5,10,15 times a week.
Now imagine that the comments on most of these memes feature a whole bunch of people defending this person and agreeing with the hateful shit they said about you.
I'd imagine that's why some people care.
Genuine question though, what would be the right thing to give the energy/importance to in this scenario?
If you don't know how shitty of a person Steven Crowder is, take a look at this video (tw: verbal abuse) of him berating his pregnant wife.
His whole thing with "Change My Mind" is him going around to college campuses and debate-lording unprepared college students, and at the first sign of losing he weasels out.
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The problem is just the meme is misused. It should only be for intentionally bad takes
While I appreciate that he is a transphobe, and that may be the nexus between him and yourself, he's a whole lot more than that.
It's one of his many assaults against decent humanity.
For years I assumed he was just a student in college arguing for something and not an actual POS 😢
Spoilers - he didn’t want anyone to change his mind.
To be fair, he is racist too!!!
And sexist, homophobic, antisemitic, the whole right wing dipshit starter pack.
I say we lose the entire Crowder meme format. The "change my mind" bit was from one of his stunts, and this is just keeping it alive longer
There's still many other meme formats that send the same message, we don't need to sully Calvin's image by associating it with a Crowder stunt
It only keeps it alive for those who know it. I had no idea who that dude was or where it was from.
Didn't his wife cheat on him or some shit and he's in the middle of divorce right now?
Wait why are we mad at Calvi and Hobbs?
We aren't. Op is saying we should use this instead of the template with Steven crowder cause Steven crowder is a piece of shit.
We are not. OP writes about the regular "change my mind" meme guy
This is hilarious. Crowder is a POS.
The only meme I see in this version is one complaining about needing to use this version over the original one.
It isn't helping.
In fact, because the name is spelled-out, more people now know about the guy.
Shouldn’t use Watterson’s work. He fought long and hard against stuff like this…
Who even is that
it's Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes
The name on the poster.