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The person on the left is carrying bags, the one in orange is a delivery driver and a couple of people are wearing backpacks. Aside from car brained, Damaris is also blind.

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[–] [email protected] 143 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Don't remember where I heard it first, but I always love to hear it.

"Whenever someone brings up bikes, suddenly everyone needs to move their refrigerator 100 miles in the rain"

[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The solution? Rental vans...

It's like people think they need mega trucks for the time once a year or less that they have to move a couch.

"But what about when I have to haul wood for my yearly porch renovation?"

"Rent a fucking truck!"

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have it delivered by the people selling you the wood.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

In this vein, I saw a comment on Lemmy that speaks to this. I'm paraphrasing but it really woke me up. The person said that Americans choose on edge cases and not standard use case. I realized I felt that way about ICE cars vs EV and I am a cyclist. It is amazing how we can have blinders on.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

You're living up to your name, lol 😉

[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago (1 children)

TIL driving to and from work is "recreational" unless you have a TV or something in the back of your car.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'd gladly remove every car from the roads that is not carrying a sofa, table or desk.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

I'm even willing to add "large amounts of water & a big ladder, or sick/injured people" to that list.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

They already move an entire sofa, audiovisual center and HVAC.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Skill issue.

The Dutch absolutely use bikes to carry goods.

I've seen people with TVs on their bike. I've seen them with multiple crates of beer on the handlebars (kingsnight).

I saw three people on one (regular) bike.

Also these:

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Yup and if we really NEED to transport big things, sure, we might need a van. But that's probably a once every once every year thing max.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Holy leg day

That's awesome

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The bike in front literally has shopping bags hanging from the handles. Fucking clown take

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

And also someone sitting on the back of the bike.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

When I used to be on twitter and in response to idiotic comments like that, I would post the video of the guy cycling with a fridge on his back, one of someone moving a piano, several tradesmen that quit their vans to use cargo bikes, the pedal cab company in London (proper cargo bikes not the shitty tourist things) and the mother of 6 from Portland that had a cargo bike to take them all to school.

It used to shut them up

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Well I don't want to bike with a fridge on my back!"

"Oh I was never suggesting you could."

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago

Yea, car congestion isn’t about industrial transport, it’s about personal transport. All of the people commuting to/from work etc in single person occupied tanks.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How often does one need to transport a sofa, table, or desk? That's what delivery trucks are for, which is a legitimate use of that type of transportation.

The drugstore cowboys driving Dodge Rams clogging up the streets aren't transporting anything more robust than a 12-pack of Mtn Dew and complaining about the price of gas

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Oddly enough, the discussion is never on the other side.

"WHY DO YOU NEED BIKE LANES?! NO ONE IS EVER GOING TO RIDE A BIKE! JUST DRIVE!"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

These morons are insufferable because they don't believe anything exists outside the frame of the photo. they have worse object permanence to babies

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

Having lived in Utrecht, yes all those stores in the picture, completely empty, also all the people on bikes are happy to finally have the chance to sit after spending their day in a house without furniture.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A perk of belonging to my city's bike advocacy group is that you can rent this for no additional charge:

64″ aluminum truss-frame trailer; easily carry a 4×8 sheet of plywood, eight bags of groceries, or whatever else you can fit on it up to 300 lbs; holds 4 plastic tote boxes before stacking

Nosireebob, can't haul stuff around with that... /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Trying to persuade the (amazingly) only contractors on the entire planet that think they need a tiny-penis truck because they occasionally need to pick up some wood from Howm Deeepo to ride a bike is like trying to get blood from a stone

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can't just dictate what you believe roads should be for and think everyone should agree with it as fact. Roads are for a lot of things, and even in this guy's narrow definition, people are goods, in fact they are the most important and valuable goods on the roads.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That person clearly hasn't witnessed Dutch students carrying a whole bedroom on the back of their bike.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

People lived before cars, people will live without them.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

But I mean, it doesn't matter if you can't carry a single 2x4x24ft lumber from home Depot to your house or from the lumber hard to home Depot. We got the main roads for that so big trucks can do that. Just commuting yourself from your house to work and back is enough.

In Amsterdam I got to see lots of little human powered delivery vans though. Mostly DHL. It was awesome to see. So it is doable in flat locations for sure.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

We’ve got to move these microwave ovens. We’ve got to move these colour TVs.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Definitely the wrong argument against bikes.

A lot of the best ones just come down to time - 30 mins commuting in traffic vs 70+ cycling. 1-2 grocery trips per week vs 4-6.

Good public transport can balance that out (though less so for shopping).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

@HexesofVexes @nehal3m Most people should live where walking to a grocery store is easy. Most advocates want to fix a lot of things, not just 1.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Looks at literally the front bike in the picture...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Who made up that rule lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Clearly they're not bringing the goods, they're bringing the services. That clown even said it himself. Refers to goods and services then only talks about the goods.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Well, this ups the ante. We need to start build really BIG bikes that can carry an entire shipping container.

Think of the fitness opportunities!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The author could be the first to use a bike to haul furniture if he wanted to

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

When I lived in Switzerland I literally used a bike to haul furniture (flat packed). Honestly it's easier than you might imagine.

I brought a big tv home on my bike too. It's quite achievable, if awkward.

But a cargo bike would have been a better choice than my conventional bike.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Idunno, maybe they don't get all' their shit delivered in front? Maybe there are trucks in back instead of clogging up the front door that customers use to get in and buy things? Maybe there's a damn train underneath all' this! How 'bout that! Nyeehh!!! 😝

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